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PostPosted: Mar 22, 2003 10:05 pm    Post subject: Nollie Reply with quote

Has anyone landed a nollie? I started landing them this past week and they are very easy. You just put your front foot at the nose of the board and your rear foot in the middle. Then, you push the nose of the board into the water, and it pops right off the water. I also think (in reference to a previous post) that nollie shuv-its are very possible, and I wouldn't be shocked if people are already landing them.
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PostPosted: Mar 22, 2003 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would like to see some proof.....not that i don't believe you or anything Wink
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PostPosted: Mar 22, 2003 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until I see some proof I'm calling BS.
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PostPosted: Mar 22, 2003 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could nollie in the flats, but not off the wake. Nollie shuvits are probably pretty easy, they're easy on a skateboard.
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PostPosted: Mar 22, 2003 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jester you haven't done much wakeskating have you.
I call BS untill I see evidence

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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2003 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

same here if they were as easy as he calms then i would probably have seen it by now so show some proof
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2003 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you push down on the nose of your board, wouldnt that make you fall foward or something? or do you push down and lean back at the same time??
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2003 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I know is that anytime i push my nose down in the water my board stops. Maybe the water is different down in Miami though, yea thats probably it.
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2003 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Todd Armstrong wrote:
Jester you haven't done much wakeskating have you.
I call BS untill I see evidence


No argument here, I've only wakeskated like 4 or 5 times.

I agree that evidence should be shown first. I didn't say the guy did it, I only said it wasn't impossible (except off the wake). I suggested that the nollie shuvit would be easy 'cuz like I said, it's easy on a skateboard. Obviously I don't have personal experience trying it on a wakeskate so it's very possible that I'm wrong.
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2003 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A wakeskate ollie is different from a skateboard ollie, on teh water it's all about popping the board onto the water with your back foot and letting it rise with you as you suck up your feet. From my own personal riding I cant see how you can get that energy off the nose without burying the tip and falling.
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2003 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enuff. I'm sure it can be done, there was a period of time when skaters didn't think you could nollie or fakie ollie. And the impossible got its name 'cuz people thought it was, of course, impossible.
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2003 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i remember when i was stoked on just doing surfce junk, nollies, cant do that yet, tred once, but i pushed down, and ate my S#it!!!
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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2003 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prove it
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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2003 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll get you all some proof next time I ride. I know it seems impossible, but belive me, its not. Becasue the nose of the board ride above the water, you can push it down, which causes the water to pop it up. I can't nollie very high, but I can get the board out of the water. Oh, byt, the water is the same in Miami as it is in Orlando, so its not the water.
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PostPosted: Mar 25, 2003 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive tried nollies and it didn't work. I want to see the video. if they're so easy, why aren't pros doing em?
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PostPosted: Mar 25, 2003 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Todd: I don't think nollies would be possible, but I do think nollie shuv its are. Why? because to nollie shuv it, you don't even really have to pop the board. I can do nollie shuv its on my skateboard without popping it at all, it simply slides 180 just a fraction above the ground. This could be done on a wakeskate, it wouldn't pop off the water, just slide 180 on the water.
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PostPosted: Mar 25, 2003 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then it would not be a nollie shuvit, it would be some wierd fakie pressure shuvit
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PostPosted: Mar 26, 2003 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am ready to some wakeskate history! bust out the video Wakeskater42!
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PostPosted: Mar 26, 2003 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think wakeskater 42 is a little confused. think about it if you put to much pressure on the nose it is going to be sugmerged and you are gonna go out wee man superman style. the way wakeskater42 describes it it sounds like he is doing a normal ollie with his weight and feet shifted slightly forward. the physics of wakeboarding/wakeskating are completely different from skating. todd has the idea. you kinda forma a ramp in the water by pushing your back foot down and it shoots you in the air. if you shifted your feet forward you could still form that ramp but it is still technically not a nollie. that is what I think you are doin.
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PostPosted: Mar 26, 2003 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not fakie, because your not traveling backwards, all your doing is shuffling up the board into the nollie position.

Try this. Put a skate deck or wakeskate down on your carpet (even a wakeboard minus the bindings will do). Stand on it in your regular stance, then jump and do a shuv it without popping it. The board will spin on the carpet without leaving the ground. Now move into the nollie position and do the same. This could be replicated on a wakeskate, although you would have to be careful not to drive the nose under the water.

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PostPosted: Mar 26, 2003 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then it would not be a nollie, the is no vertical rise. Then it would be a pressure shuvit off the nose.

NO NOLLIE, SIMPLE AS THAT A NOLLIE IS A VERICAL POP OFF THE NOSE.

criminally_minded I think what you are saying is easily possible but it is not a nollie in anyway, shape or form. Take the fins off and try it exitingoff one wake

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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2003 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok then, its a Shuv it from the nollie position if you want to be like that Wink

You're right, there is no nollie, in that the board doesn't leave the water, but it is from the nollie position, so for simplicitys sake, nollie shuv it. Wether or not its 'valid' is a point of debate.

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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2003 10:45 am    Post subject: Nollie Reply with quote

OK. I know the nollie sounds like a bunch of BS, but its up to you wether you want to believe it. The whole key is the foot place ment. From what I understand about skateboarding, a nollie is where you pop the nose of your board down first, allowing the tail to rise before the nose. A nollie on a wakeskat uses similiar characteristics, and just like all of the physics and metheds used to do an ollie on a skateboard won't carry over on a wakeskate, neither will they on the nollie. If you consider a nollie on a wakeskate a ollie w/ ur feet on the nose of the board, you are part right. BUT, the tail of the board comes into the air before the nose, by which, shows that you have gotten ur pop from you nose, causing a NOLLIE. I hope this helps clearify things a little. About the pros...just because they aren't landing something doesn't mean a trick isn't easy or that it is impossible. They are a lot of wakeskaters that are extremely good w/ different tricks then the pros, who are also behind the sport that aren't sponsored. Ok, let me hear how you all wanna try and prove my friend and I haven't landed nollies, even tho u aren't me.
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2003 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey man i just want to see the video
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2003 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David, you said what I was gonna say. This argument has gone on long enuff, let's just wait to see the video & then we can argue about he said/she said.
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2003 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CM, what you are describing is the real definition of a shove-it. A shove-it is when you "shove" the board using your nose, and kick the board foward with your back foot, it really is a "pressure" type trick. A nollie shove-it and pop shove-it are almost completley different.
wakeskater42, what you are describing sounds like an ollie by pushing off the center of the board, I want to see this, it sounds cool. BUT it's not a nollie. You have to pop off the nose to nollie. While I'm on my soap box: there is no such thing as half-cab in wakeboarding, It's impossible. Why, cause you can't fakie ollie(switch nollie) a wakeboard or wakeskate

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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2003 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally a person who speaks the truth
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PostPosted: Mar 28, 2003 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why you people think nollies & fakie ollies are impossible. Just 'cuz you've tried 'em & couldn't do 'em that doesn't mean no one ever will. In fact, popping an ollie off the center of the board sounds even LESS feasible than a nollie.

The skateboarding community acted the same way and look where they're at now. And like I said earlier, the impossible got its name 'cuz skaters thought it would be impossible to get the board to spin on its short axis.

There is truth to wakeboarders not being able to nollie or half cab for the simple reason that they don't get air by popping the tail (or nose in this case). If you're talking about busting off the wake then yes, you can't do a nollie 'cuz you're using the wake to boost you. Out in the flats, that's another story.
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PostPosted: Mar 28, 2003 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think a nollie is possible on water, that's my opinion and when I see one I will change my mind Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mar 28, 2003 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russian - Your right, dead right, absolutly right on the definition of a shuv-it and a pop-shuv it, and the differences between them, and you have proven my point for me, thanks Wink

This is a nollie shuv-it. I NEVER said it was a nollie POP shuv-it. Think about it.

(Oh, btw, I'm having a hard time believing an actual nollie can be done on a wakeskate, maybe if they give the board HEAPS of rocker so when the nose is stomped it doesn't go under the water, but I doubt this will happen)

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PostPosted: Apr 01, 2003 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i do think nolies are possible, but right now..no.. but soon they will be, if you can stand on the tip of your board and not go in, theres got to be some way of doing them... and for that i will go try them.
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MV is popin stuff. landing likeits his job. nollie shuvs in the bag haha
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PostPosted: Apr 09, 2003 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big Myles, thats badass, finish the video!!!!!!!!!
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i tryed to nollie ans the boardcame right out from my feet. how do i fix this? Evil or Very Mad me Twisted Evil
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