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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2005 7:04 pm    Post subject: I suck at this Reply with quote

I went out and tried my new board this weekend and could not get up. All I could do was plow water until the rope got yanked out of my hands. Is there something I am missing here? I watched the basic start video and have read a lot of posts, but I never seemed to roll over on the board and get it on top of the water. I am 6'1 250 and the board is a Hyperlite Motive 144. The boat is an 18 ft Ebtide with a 150 GT Johnson outboard with a ski pylon. The boat pulls everything else fine, so I don't think that is the problem. The board is big and pushes quite a lot of water, but I never felt that point when you could roll forward on it and stand up. Does backing off of the throttle, instead of going all out, seem to help others get up?
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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your fighting it too much. Just relax, loosen up. Your pull to hard with your arms and pushing to hard with your legs. Let the boat do all the work and let the boat pull your board so that its planing.
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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BelmontWake wrote:
Your fighting it too much. Just relax, loosen up. Your pull to hard with your arms and pushing to hard with your legs. Let the boat do all the work and let the boat pull your board so that its planing.


Exactly you just need to keep trying it took me a whole day to learn how to stand up after you stand up the first time you will stand up everytime after that don't give up.
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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sit in the waterwith the board in front of you and your hands in front of your knees....let the boat pull you up by havin your butt almost touch the board behind your feet, your knees will be in a really really deep squat...dont really push to much just let the boat pull you up....if your board is under water that is okay, dont panic and kind of sit on your board with your butt still down by your feet....once your board is all the way out of the water then you can stand up keeping most of the pressure on your heels...once you are all the way up then rotate your board
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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and with the throttle just make sure it is a steady pull and not a quick one....you should be able to get up at minimum speed, like ten miles per hour
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PostPosted: Sep 07, 2005 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm about the same size and use an similiar board. I just started getting up last weekend. The thing that helped me was to actually start turning the board out of the crouched position sooner than later. I was waiting too long. I'm about shin deep in water while for about 3 seconds while the board is planing up. Once up, I let go of the rope with my off hand until I'm parallel with the boat. Then I put my offhand back on. Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Sep 08, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep your knees in your chest the whole time you are being pulled up by the boat, and keep the knee of your front foot in between your arms while holding the handle close to your front foot. This will help you turn the board naturally while the boat is pulling you up...when you no longer feel water around your butt, stand up...now you are wakeboarding!
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PostPosted: Sep 08, 2005 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Relax, your trying too hard.

Knees as far into you chest as they can.

Your ass should also be just about touching your heels.

boat pulls you like a friend helps you off the ground.

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PostPosted: Sep 08, 2005 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to kick the board up a little bit when the boat starts to pull. I notice that this helps get a good wave above the board to come up on.

As the boat speeds up my elbows about touch my knees and I start to turn the board and pop up.

I've only been wakeboarding about 4-5 sets and I recently switched to this method my last 2 times. I used to just stay straight legged and I've actually jumped out of the water on my starts doing it that way Shocked.
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PostPosted: Sep 08, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was doing the same thing the first few times I went out, until I learned one piece of info that solved all of my problems:

Keep your toes pointed towards the boat. This will make the water go under the board instead of fighting the wall of water.

Other than that, do what everyone else said.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sep 09, 2005 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bakwudz,

That is exactly what helped both my wife and my sister get up. They were 'submarining' and would twang the rope out of their hands every time. After some thought they agreed to try pointing the nose of the board towards the boat as soon as the boat started pulling. Just keep the nose above the water and keep the board close to your butt. once the board is pointing mostly forward you can start to stand up. Key is to reduce the drag of the water as much as possible. trying to keep the board more parallel with the surface of the water to reduce that drag.
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PostPosted: Sep 11, 2005 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a larger wakeboarder who took 4-5 trips to get up the first time, let me offer a few things...

1. You are big. You are strong. Both of these things do not matter.

2. As soon as the boat starts to pull allow the board to go under water. In fact, pull it under.

3. Allow the board to go under your body, but not behind you.

4. As long as you keep your toes higher than your heels (with respect to the surface of the water) you will plane up and out of the water.

Absolutely DO NOT...

1. Keep your shoulders back.

2. Point your toes.

3. Block or create a wave or anything else mentioned above.

Remember you can probably leg press 500-800 lbs, but your hands will never hold that weight. Take you legs out of it, by allowing yourself to immediately getting to the "baseball catchers pose", with your toes pulled hard to your knees.

OH and be sure to get an extra long lifejacket... Us big guys look like crap with the roll hanging between the jacket and the shorts.
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice. Went out yesterday and gave it another try. The first guy to try popped right up on it this week and everything was going fine. Got around to my try and something in the throttle linkage broke and stuck the boat wide open. Rigged it up and idled three miles back to the dock. Gonna get it fixed and try again this weekend. In 2+ hours of working on it and idling back to the dock, not one person bothered stopping as they rubbernecked when they went by. Everyone better remember that karma is a B*TCH, and stop when you see the motor cover off and three people working on it.
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2005 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, that is a shame brew.. So close to getting to apply all this. Hopefully it gets fixed soon!

We always stop when the engine cover is up on someone's boat..
WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND OUT THERE ON THE WATER!!!

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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with howabouttheiris. I'm 6'6", 240 lbs, and I can get up using almost no strength by letting the board go completely under water. I actually start now with it approx 8 inches under
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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 6'7, 250 lbs.
The way I get up is just to crouch as much as I can... toeside edge of the board out of the water, and I just hold on tight until the board gets out of the water and starts "skipping" on the surface sort of. Then I stand and turn the board.
It goes completely against all the videos, etc... but it's the only way I can do it.
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should arch your back, but keep your legs locked upright. You may be too big (heavy) for the boat. I'd have to see for myself, but that's my guess.
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should arch your back, but keep your legs locked upright. You may be too big (heavy) for the boat. I'd have to see for myself, but that's my guess.
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PostPosted: Oct 16, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got all the kinks worked out of the boat and got back out again. Popped up the first time and was jumping soon after. Thanks for all the advice. The easiest way I found was a combination of all the posts. Start with the board angled towards the boat, let the boat start pulling with the board pushing under water, stand up, and then let the board come up to plane on its on. Worked like a charm every time. Damn linkage on the motor broke again though, so I guess that is it for this year.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2005 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah that sux Neutral keep at it ull get it





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PostPosted: Dec 11, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think one thing people forget is turning the front of your board reg/goofy whatever, forward towards the boat, if you keep it sideways, you're almost creating a breaker, turn your board, get it under you, pop up and begin to enjoy the sickest stuff ever =] Once you get up you'll understand it completely. Don't worry, everyones been dragged by the boat on their face or the handle ripped out of their hands.
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PostPosted: Dec 11, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude wtf?????? lol how old is this post i screwed up and posted in a old post and now u posted in it when it was getting old again lol it started in sep 07

just stop positn here and it will go away i hope
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