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molypod Criminal
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 85 City: Chilliwack
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Posted: Aug 27, 2005 8:21 am Post subject: Pumpless Ballast |
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I noticed an article on DIYTower.com about a pumpless ballast system.
Considering my boat space is limited I have condsidered building a system this winter. after reading numerous post about DIY Ballasts on here Im not sure what or how I want to go about adding a system. Pumpless Vs Pumps hard tanks (pumpless) bags ect. Any suggestions?
I have a 17.5ft Maxum I/O and have thought about a locker bag + a rear sac or waterbed tubes in locker + tubes in side gunnels + small customs sacs in bow storages . or hard tanks through out with pumpless system.
any help appreciated. |
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bighitbiker3 Soul Rider
Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 386 City: Seattle
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Posted: Aug 28, 2005 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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I personally think that it is very unreliable and will only work sometimes. Someone correct me if im wrong but from looking at that it just doesn't seem right. I would just use pumps. But whatever floats your boat. _________________ The sky is not the limit. Wanna see me naked? |
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GuitsBoy Soul Rider
Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 397 City: Long Island
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Posted: Aug 29, 2005 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Personally, I think it would be very reliable. Ive never used one myself, but the idea is quite sound. Next time youre out, put a section of fat sack tube into the water like a pickup, and see how much water actually shoots upward through the tubing. I think it would fill the sacs up pretty quickly. And as for draining, what could be more reliable than gravity? _________________ Long Island, NY & Canada Lake, NY (addirondacks)
'92 MasterCraft ProStar 205, 285 HP, 1500 Lbs. ballast
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Wakebrad Ladies Man
Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 29, 2005 6:55 am Post subject: |
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molypod, which pumpless system are you talking about? If you use Calabria's method of putting the bags/tanks below the waterline (tight on space) you can fill while standing still and empty while moving or after you trailer your boat.
Or if you put a hull scoop with the opening facing forward and put the sacs above water level, by driving around you can have it fill the sacs/tanks and by standing still it will drain. You would probably need an electric gate valve for this so you could close the valve while moving.
I don't think it's worth it with the second system. Just get a good reversible pump and avoid the hassle. _________________ You have just entered the twilight zone. |
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molypod Criminal
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 85 City: Chilliwack
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Posted: Aug 31, 2005 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Wakebrad,
I was considering having a couple tanks above the waterline and one below. The physics of it would only allow the above waterline tanks to drain using "vent lines" and the below waterline tank would have to drain after putting boat on trailer or maybe it could be drained into the bilge area and pumped out with existing bilge.. see attached pic of orignal thoughts.
after reading about Calabria's new system I think that would work best for what I've had in mind for a pumpless system except I would have to have the tanks all below the waterline. I understand they possibly would fill by displacing air out through vent holes and replacing the air with water but I dont understand how they would drain.(would moving create a vacuum and draw the water out replacing it with air as long as the vent lines are open?)
food for thought. |
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