05 centurion avalanche

Jared A. · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 31 City: san jose

we have an 05 centurion avalanche and i have not been able to get the port side of the wake to go smooth without the white caps.... we ride at 23 so we go faster and even at 25 its not good, the other side is almost perfect!!! we have everyone sit on one side of the boat and its still bad and we mix how the weight is distributed and nothing!!! what is going on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WakeB0arder104 · Newbie Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 22 City: Scottsdale

i have a 03 cinturion avalanch and all we have to do to get the side we want to jump is have one person move the that side. we have all the ballast filled.

jryoung · Ladies Man Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose

Your weight is not distributed evenly, add weight to the washy side. It's not matter of absolutes necessarily, sometimes someone just needs to go to the middle. Or switch a guy (180lbs) with a girl (110lb) on opposite sides of the boat. It may take some work, but you'll figure it out soon enough, then it'll just be a matter of a quick fix. 50lbs one way or the other can make a difference.

Jared A. · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 31 City: san jose

its not like it ever gets good, i have never seen it good once!!!! no matter if we have 10 people in the boat or just 2 its the same. the boat also pulls to the right..when i let go of the steering wheel it will turn.... and to get rid of the wash out dont u put more weight on the washed out side?

jryoung · Ladies Man Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose

Oops, must have been a dyslexia thing going on, you're right add weight to the washy side. The boat will always pull if you let go of the wheel, the prop wash will turn the rudder, this is normal.

As far as the wake always being washy, was it like that when you demoed it before purchase? I can't imagine it being anything more than a weight issue, you just haven't found the sweet spot yet.

Jared A. · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 31 City: san jose

yea im pretty sure it was always like that....the thing is its the avalanch not the c4 so even more weight is always on the port side but the starboard side is always nice and clean

Jared A. · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 31 City: san jose

and weight wise on that side all we have is the sub , the driver, and the ballast, for the pport side we have the ballast and EVERYTHING else!!! there is deffinatly more weight on the port side...

Centrider · Outlaw Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 232

Have you tried adding even more weight? I have the Elite C4 and its fine, but the hull design i know is completely diff. If all else falls, go back to the dealership and tell them. BTW what dealership did you buy it from?

rskamar · Newbie Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 37

I was under the impression that there was only one 2005 22ft Centurion hull for the avalanche, avalanche C4, and escalade. I had thought the lightening is the only one where the non-C4 was the older, narrower hull.
That issue aside. It is assuredly a problem with weighting. As has been discussed in detail on many threads, the deeper V hulls are more sensitive to weight distribution.
How many ballast tanks do you have? just the center or the triple?
How deep is your water? wake boats need a good 12-15 ft of water to make a proper wake.
Try an experiment, do some slow very gradual turns and look at your wake. This can simulate changing weight. I can alternate some wash and knife sharp at will with just a little pressure on the wheel. Like this: (unbalasted, in water of marginal depth)--doh! where's the rider???

Jared A. · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 31 City: san jose

dealership- somewhere up north, i dont know the name....

as to the other stuff, the water is anywhere from 20 - 150 feet deep, i dont like to drive in anyhting under 20 cause the depth can change fast and props are allot of $$$$. i did test it and i could get the wake good if i kept the boat turned a little... but even going strait with 8 people on the port side the wake is still washed, thats not good. we have the 3 ballast tanks all filled....we even let the starbord side tank empty and the wake was still crap....

Centrider · Outlaw Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 232

I would go back to the dealership and have then look at it. Might be a hull defect???

But i find it hard to see how teh wake is crap when all the wieght is on that side? Have any pics of it?

Jared A. · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 31 City: san jose

i dont have any pics, but i will try to get some friday

rskamar · Newbie Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 37

Hmmm... just got the boat (an 05) and doesn't remember the name of the dealership... for a 40-50K purchase??
Is able to fix the wake in a slight turn but going straight with nearly 1000lbs (by my math: one ballast @ 250 and "everyone" 5 poeple @~750) on one side of the boat it's no good??
running at 25mph is a little fast...

I'm wondering whether there is an ulterior motive to Jared's post.. a secret ninja smear campaign on the part of MC or 'Bu? simple trollery? wants out of his boat? it's not adding up.

Won't stop me from trying to help in genuine fashion...

therefore, are you sure your tanks are full? the intakes for the tanks are above the exhaust and it can take almost twenty minutes to fill the port/starboard tanks whith the motor running. Some have suggested that adjustment of the tracking fins can also bias the hull one way or the other. As to a hull defect... A twist would do this but would need to be pretty significant to so drastically alter the wake.. it would also be manifest in other ways.. handling, etc.

Centurion is a standup company.. no skiboat producer can afford not to be. they live and die by their repuation. contact the/a dealer and have them take a look.

Jared A. · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 31 City: san jose

the reason i dont know the name of the dealership is because my dad bought the boat, it is his boat, i just want to know how to fix the wake.....and i love centurions i wouldnt have it any other way, i ride regular so my wake is always sweet and it launches me high and far!!

wakeman61972 · Outlaw Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 120

i have a 05 centurion and the wake is always nice just keep the weight evenly spread

jryoung · Ladies Man Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose

Tmac1 · Posted: Aug 12, 2005 5:06 am Post subject:

what if there is some damage to the prop Confused

Jared A. · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 31 City: san jose

ridehyperlite · Criminal Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 97 City: Albert Lea

Mine had the same problem when new. The problem got worse when I dropped a pitch size in the prop. My rep drove 2 hours to get to my lake and with the help of a dead blow hammer we tweaked the tracking fins. The leading edge needs to be pushed to the starboard side and the trailing edges to the port side. This will cause the fins to force the boat to roll a little to the port side. If this method does not correct the problem, they will send it to a glass shop and have some hook added to the starboard side of the stern. This is called "tuning the hull and is a very common practice on tournament boats.

Talk to your dealer, and if they can't help call centurion they are great about making things right.

By the way I still have a 250 pound fat sac on top of the rear port side tank and the wakes are stellar.

grapic · Outlaw Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 192

Here is my wake with 1200 lbs, 3 people at 24 mph. The rider is at 80ft. We found the Avalanche to be a little more sensitive to weight balance and it doesn't need as much weight in the front or overall as most boats.

Dan Lee · Newbie Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 48 City: Scottsdale

is there a hydraulic trim plate on the back of this boat? I bent or misalaigned plate can have everything to do with a wake and balance issue.

Jared A. · Newbie Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 31 City: san jose

there is a trim plate i think, but it is not hydrolic, it is pretty much fixed in place...ill have my dad make some calls

r3612 · Soul Rider Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 346 City: Chicago IL

Since you don't have the hydraulic trim tab I"m almost 100% positive that your tab is is the wrong position. This WILL DEFINITELY CAUSE YOUR WAKE TO CURL. The tab is still adjustable youo just have to do it manually. Any Centurion owner will tell you that with the plate more than 1/4 of the way down the wake will be washy VERY WASHY ON 1 side. Try and adjust your plate all the way up. This will cleen up your wake for sure.

From what you have stated and the fact that it won't clean up this is definitely looking like it would be the first thing that I would adjust. @nd would be to make sure all the tanks are filling properly.