Handle Passes

AbsoluteRida · Outlaw Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 156 City: Atl

ok i have plenty of air time great rotation but i cant seem to get the handle pass. It just feels like there is no slack in the rope. Any tips because i ride away every time without the rope just need some slack???

bradb · Outlaw Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 204 City: Parksville

In one smooth motion, pull with both hands to your back hip, and continue pulling with your single hand past you hip and into the small of your back, where you should be able to grab the handle with your other hand.
A couple of tips:
1) Possibly flatten out your edge just a bit at the wake, releasing a bit of the line tension.
2) never tried this one, but it is supposed to give you the feeling of doing the handle pass: Grab a handle (5ft section) and attach a 4Litre milk jug filled with water to the end of it. Swinging this around your body and passing it behind your back is supposed to simulate the feeling of passing the handle, and the motion that is required... I don't know... Just what I heard!
3) Try a few starting wrapped, to get the feeling of the pull and the rotation.
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Wake_Turner · Outlaw Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 244 City: kelowna

Get on a tramp and practise doing three's, now you might say that you can do them fine on a tramp and they are easy, this is true if you do them incorrectly for wakebaord training. WHen you do a 360 on a wakeboard you have to pop first and then use the handle to intiate the spin. If you thwor it with you body off the wake you will either get pulled off-axis or miss the handle. i suggest getting on a tramp and jump straight up and at the peak of the jump pull the handle into your rear hip to initiate the spin. if you do this right without starting the spin bny turning off the tramp then you will need a strong tug to your hip with BOTH HANDS in order to get the full spin and this will also give you the slck needed for the handle pass. another thing that really helps,(which may have been mentioned already) is take a knees bent approach and flatten off slightly at the wake and stand tall. but haveing a knees bent approach it will lower the line tension making it easier to grab the handle. One more thing that people over look SOOO much and i honestly dont hink i have ever seen it mentioned in here is the kind of rope you have. If you don't have a non stretch rope then what happens as soon as you leave the wake is that the line tension and stretch in the rope pulls the handle back in towards the boat and away from the samll of you back. even if you have every aspect of the trick rigth but you have a stretch rope then it can make it very difficult to get the handle.

AbsoluteRida · Outlaw Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 156 City: Atl

thanks i will try it and get back to you.

MidOhioWake · Newbie Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 23 City: Dublin

another thing to try is having the driver slow down a little while your in the air its kinda cheating but once you get it you should be able to do it w/ out the driver slowing down good luck!

intotheflats · Posted: Jul 05, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject:

als132 · Soul Rider Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 462 City: shoreline

for some reason, tramp handle passes didnt relaly help me becassuse i usually get too much slack on the tramp so it doesnt truely simulate it. to get used to them, i took a continuous rocker board with no fins whatsoever, and rode that, doing surface spins all over the lake. i got dizzy, but it definatly helped. try it.

pointblank12 · Soul Rider Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 313

so did you land your 3?

AbsoluteRida · Outlaw Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 156 City: Atl

i went out to day and video taped it and i have air time rotation and now slack i am just plain out missin the handle. I am reaching over it???

bhamglassman · Soul Rider Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 338 City: Bellingham

AbsoluteRida, You want to make sure not to remove your front hand until it's ready to make the pass, it makes it easier to keep track of where the handle is, if you let go of your front hand when you launch off the wake, it's a lot easier to forget exactly where the handle is.
I had trouble being consistent with the handle passes until I pulled the rope a LOT harder towards my back where I pass it, it gives you more slack and a quicker rotation.
Also, I never got the handle pass until I decided I was going to get the handle pass no matter how much I messed up the spin. Don't worry about landing for a few tries, just get the damn handle. 360's don't hurt that bad even if you mess up. Getting the handle and falling hard will give you more of a confidence boost and will help you get that aspect of the trick down...
Also, to learn the 360 it might be easier to take the speed down to 20 or even lower. You'll still get plenty of pop, it will just be easier to get slack, and will hurt less to fall, only drawback i know of is it looks pretty lame doing a 1-wake 360 Laughing

AbsoluteRida · Outlaw Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 156 City: Atl

thanks for all the help

J_DOGG · Posted: Jul 13, 2005 7:20 am Post subject:

AbsoluteRida, DON'T LET GO UNTIL YOU FEEL IT IN THE OTHER HAND....

Plain and simple.

You will never have an issue with missing the handle again!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is what I tell people that can't get the 3 figured out all the time. Think of this trick as a handle pass trick not a spin trick. Pop in the air and try to pass the handle, your body will naturally know what to do from there.

Theelz102 · Newbie Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 17 City: Charlotte

J_DOGG, nice way to look at it. I have the same problem, Im trying to rotate instead of do the handle pass. Im going this weekend, and I'm going to try what you said. Ill try to get back with you

J_DOGG · Posted: Jul 14, 2005 2:54 am Post subject:

Theelz102, I have money that says you WILL land the 3 using this method.

AbsoluteRida · Outlaw Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 156 City: Atl

well jdogg i went out today and got the handle but didnt finish off the rotation so maybe i need to do alil bit of both cause i either miss the handle completely and get the rotaion or grab the handle and land with my back towards the boat at 24 miles an hour with a big migrane. To get down my 3s down at first should i pull the rope to 70 ft and go like 21 will it be easier to get slack in the rope to make the handle pass and the rotation??? because right now i go at 75ft at 23 and i feel like i have to cut hard which really builds tension! also would it help with my backrolls because at 70 ft i go higher and slower because i dont have to worry about clearing the wake but at 75ft i have to cut alot harder and i dont get good pop so i have a low fast rotating backroll??

J_DOGG · Posted: Jul 15, 2005 3:11 am Post subject:

AbsoluteRida, We all went through that... Yes landing backwards like that will cause some pain I've been there.
I spent an entire weekend doing the exact same thing..

You are on the same path I was many years ago, I know you will land one as long as you keep passing the handle, that should still be your #1 priority.IMO.

Give a few more honest efforts if you still don't land the trick I'll lend you my wife for the weekend. LOL....

AbsoluteRida · Outlaw Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 156 City: Atl

ok thanks any help with the rope length and speed for the backroll? for some reasone im rotating low and fast because when i start to edge away from the boat i dont get any height just speed???

AbsoluteRida · Outlaw Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 156 City: Atl

jason2454 · Outlaw Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 240 City: austin

AbsoluteRida · Outlaw Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 156 City: Atl

j dogg thanks for the help finally got one today. I just let the boat pull me in for my cut then ther was no tension. Now i am goin for the 540 and the bs 360. the bs doesnt seem like it will be to hard since i can do a bs 180. u would think it would be easier