Trying scarecrow

bodigus · Criminal Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Posts: 83 City: Chicago IL

hey, I just started trying scarecrows, and i'm nowhere close. When i cut in toeside and try to pop off the wake, it seem like i just fly headfirst into the middle of the wake and i dont have any rotation. can anyone help me on the right edging and popping? thanks

wakeboarder_360 · Posted: Aug 02, 2004 11:38 am Post subject:

have you checked this yet http://www.wakeboarder.com/tricks/scarecrow.phtml ? also use the search, there is several good threads on these.

colefooter · Posted: Aug 02, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject:

If anything, make sure you ride all the way up the wake. Scarecrow is kind of hard to get it at first, but once you get it , its easy. Try to really get that trip at the top of the wake , which will give you better pop

Haggy102 · Outlaw Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 103

along with better pop it will just fling ure body around the flip, it will seem pretty effortless after a few tries

toothpick · Posted: Aug 02, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject:

I've said it many times before, so I'll say it again. Learn a straight front roll first. That will teach you the proper rotation of the move. Once you get your front roll solid, you'll get the scarecrow within your first two tries, guaranteed...and it will look better too.

So, for tips on that, here goes:

Edge in quicker than for your normal ts wake to wake jump. Just before the wake, back all the way off your edge and stick your hips up, so your hips absorb all the pop from the wake. That will pop you up and start your flip for you. From there, just tuck your head down, try to over-rotate so you land on edge. It's a fun move.

ben · Outlaw Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 168 City: Pasco

yeah, i am just now getting my frontrolls consistent and i havnt even thought about the scarecrow yet....well, i guess my point is learn the frontroll first

holdsworth · Posted: Aug 03, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:

toothpick and ben haha i landed a scarecrow before i landed my ts front Laughing

i've landed one ts front and thats it...i am going to work on it though so i can stick my elephant that i am working on...or the other way around if i stick my elephant then do a ts front

scarecrow, at the top of the wake (left foot forward this is) throw down your back shoulder quick and at the same time, toss your front shoulder back, but it's not like a bs 180 or anything but it helps get the 180 around....hold on with both hands also and i move my hands with the handle up to my sholders during the rotation

XxWakeboardxX · Criminal Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 87

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

toothpick, i agree with u too....ive got my friends opinon goin towrads the scarecrow but for my a frontroll seems more natural....i havent landed either of them so i dont really know what im talkin about....just givin my 2 cents.

boarder52002 · Soul Rider Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 454 City: Chicago

yea i would learn the frontroll first cuz if you dont then it will be a lot harder to learn the frontroll after you have already landed the scarecrow. i have seen people have problems with the frontroll because they tried scarecrows first.

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

boarder52002, lol...ive seen that too. lol.

holdsworth · Posted: Aug 03, 2004 11:58 am Post subject:

boarder52002, that sucks...i am screwed Crying or Very sad

colefooter · Posted: Aug 03, 2004 4:23 pm Post subject:

wakeguy2008, haha cough matt cough

Scarecrow is a LOT more natural. I suppose just try both and whatever works is good. Everyone is different. I learned scarecrow, then landed ts front second or third try. Both a piece of cake as long as you focus on what you are suppose to do.

J_DOGG · Posted: Aug 04, 2004 9:10 am Post subject:

I'm not sayn what toothpick, said is wrong cuz he gives great advice and in theory it all makes sense. Until you actually try one you will not know what YOUR tendencies are. For the same reason some people spin BS better than FS it's all about the riders tendencies. Again for the same reason some people do the Tantrum before the HS backroll, they go with what works for them and their tendencies.

I'm from the OLD SCHOOL, go with what works!
Letting go with one hand to try and spot my landing between my legs to land on my TS edge riding away from the wake was not happening.

I had a much easier time holding on with two hands, spotting the landing as I opened up to the boat and riding away on my HS edge. SCARECROW.

MY 2cents

Great Lakes Rider · Newbie Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 36

Wake4Life08 wrote:

holdsworth · Posted: Aug 05, 2004 6:58 am Post subject:

i just realized something....don't listen to me on the 180 thing Embarassed

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wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

dude Wake4Life08, come over tommorow!! were getting our boat back from the shop!! im gonna celebrate by landing 4 inverts in one day!!

msimpson · Posted: Aug 05, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject:

I want to see this!!! I will be there around noon!!! With camera and video. WOW!!! I can't wait to see the SLOB rider in action!!!!!!!!! Mr. Green

Lantzvillian · Posted: Aug 06, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject:

Great lakes rider I think yer 2 bitz is bs. I agree with the dawg go for what works.. If yer racking yer nutz like I did on front rolls everytime and did elephants anyways while doing them.. then go for the crow its way easier and helps you really cause you or I learned it by flipping up frist not smelling my pit like someone of you say... I think that comes from riding behind a boat with a small wake so you can make it around. I say front roll late 180.. Large progressive cut in.. pop up, huck over liek a front roll or flip and bring the rope to the other hip.. though two hands for that I think is more forgiving.

holdsworth · Posted: Aug 07, 2004 1:32 pm Post subject:

AHA! i landed about 10/15 or so ts fronts tonight...i was working on an elephant and wanted to get used to landing regular, so i decided to try a ts front and i have landed only 1 before and the first one that i tried i landed. went on from there. didn't try an elephant again but it's sweet doing it now

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

Wake4Life08, frontrolls are SO much easier than scarecrow...anyone out there who is having trouble with thier crows...LEARN A FRONT FIRST!! it will drastically help u in the long run.

msimpson · Posted: Aug 09, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject:

Coletuber!!! I see how you are!!!!
I just can't get the f/s roll. Now it is messing up the scarecrow.

holdsworth · Posted: Aug 09, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject:

wakeguy2008, did i miss going out riding???

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

Wake4Life08, yep....i landed a frontroll and im gettin my tantrums pretty close. shoulda came dude it was fun...goin to norris tommorow!! gonna hit that slider!!

msimpson, get ur fronts consistant then work on ur crow....probably be easier.

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

Wake4Life08, yep....i landed a frontroll and im gettin my tantrums pretty close. shoulda came dude it was fun...goin to norris tommorow!! gonna hit that slider!!

msimpson, get ur fronts consistant then work on ur crow....probably be easier.

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

sry for the double post....pc is slow and im impatient...lol

holdsworth · Posted: Aug 10, 2004 11:03 am Post subject:

no it wasn't the PC...the forums were slow earlier today...i had trouble getting on also

have fun at norris and make sure you go up by sugar hollow and go up there just a little bit and jump off the bridge!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's friggin awesome unless the lake went up

msimpson · Posted: Aug 10, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject:

Nice double post..................that is what you get for giving me crap about doing it. Where have you and COLE--------------TUBER been? I am going to land the ts front again tomorrow.

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

no i have an excuse as u can see,
[quote="Wake4Life08"]no it wasn't the PC...the forums were slow earlier today...i had trouble getting on also

ill try jumpin off that bridge...should be fun lol.

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

lol i dunno how to do that quote thing.... Laughing

J_DOGG · Posted: Aug 11, 2004 3:50 am Post subject:

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

lol haha....

bodigus, hows it coming??? ur not much on keepin us updated.

bodigus · Criminal Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Posts: 83 City: Chicago IL

hey, yeah i havent gotten a chance to get out and try it again cuz... well listen to my story(and its true):
I just set up a new pylon and went out on the lake, so i was boarding for about an hour and I had thrown at least 5 or 6 tantrums and so on the last one i threw it but i landed funny. Well i ended up kneeing myself in the chin and knocked myself out, also giving my self 4 stitches so since then i havent had a chance (except the day i went tubing like 2 days after the accident, i just couldnt stay off the water...) so thats my story, i'll be at it again sunday

kuehn · Outlaw Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 186 City: London. UK

learn the front roll first as it will give you the technique of learing how to cut and pop and rotate correctly.
IF your having trouble skiing away after many sessions then definately move on to a scarecrow. some try all season to ride away from front rolls. you can always go back afterwards.