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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Jul 27, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject: a little help please |
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| hey, im a 15 year old female...umm im not that good, but i would like to be better at wakeboarding,i can do some surface stuff and a butterslide 180, but i would like to get some air! our boat doesnt provide much of a wake but is there any chance i could still get some? and how? thanks |
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eklipse Soul Rider

Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 315 City: Ladysmith
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Posted: Jul 27, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Depending on the size of your boat a fat sac is a cheap way to increase your wake. _________________ I wish my grass was emo; then it would cut itself |
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Jul 27, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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eklipse,
yea thanks, thats what i heard that helps, but how can i get air without using one of those? |
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Scorched_Ice7 Soul Rider


Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 256 City: Minneapolis
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Posted: Jul 27, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I did this for our fishing boat - it helped with the wake. Take 2-3 of those large plastic totes that you store your winterclothes in, camping gear, etc and take them along emtpy. When your out dunk them in the water and fill them up and put the cover on. You can move them around to get a nice ramp and have them both even. Once you do that and your still not getting air work more on your progressive edge and standing tall. I read this off a different post and it helped me. Think of the wake as a big spring board. You want to push off of it and keep your legs more stiff. The "spring board" does the work, you dont need to jump. |
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Jul 29, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| can anyone describe to me how you get air off a wake for me to be able to do a 180? |
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flukdfilms Soul Rider


Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 484 City: guaranteed north of you.
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Posted: Jul 29, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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no no. no fatsacs. go to walmart and get rubbermaid containers, and put them in your boat filled with water, this will increase the size of your wake.
and to get off the wake start way out, and begin a progressive cut so that when you hit the wake you are cutting as hard as you can. do not stop this cut at the wake, keep cutting up and off of it. youll understand when you try it. then when you hit the wake, stand up off of it and you should get some air no matter how weak the cut.
for a 180, turn your shoulders and spin enough to be cutting away from the wake when you land. (land with 1 hand is the easiest way)
have fun doing that, itll take a while if youre just starting _________________ www.flukdfilms.cjb.net
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Jul 30, 2004 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| thanks for the advise... ill keep that in mind when we go out again...hopefully i land the 180! |
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wakeboarder_360 Addict

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 610 City: cambridge, ontario
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Posted: Jul 30, 2004 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| for the 180 if you can already jump wake to wake you just have to let go with your lead hand and push the handle to your trailing hip and land on your edge. learn them by olling out in the flats first its alot easier. |
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Jul 30, 2004 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| alright |
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Jul 30, 2004 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| for the surface 360 i cant grab the handle behind my back to finish the rotation..is there any easier way or no? |
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boarder52002 Soul Rider

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 454 City: Chicago
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Posted: Jul 30, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: |
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what kind of boat do u have. because you mite have a decent wake and you dont even know it.
if you want to get more air just cut as hard as you can at the wake. The more speed the more air you get. |
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Jul 30, 2004 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| well we use a friends boat which is a nice one but when we dont we use my dads fishing boat which is good enough, fishing boats arent as bad as people think they are. as long as it has a little wake im happy |
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boarder52002 Soul Rider

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 454 City: Chicago
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Posted: Aug 01, 2004 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| yea thats cool. just work on what everybody tells you and im sure ull land a bunch of new moves |
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HasCrookedPinkies Newbie

Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 10 City: Atlanta
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Posted: Aug 01, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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The way i learned my 180 was just cut into the wake but as soon as ur abot to air just let go of the handle and just turn ur hips. Once your comfortable doing that just hold onto the handle. Also dont try and turn yourself befor your in the air. Just wait untill your in the air to turn ur hips. Its much easier... _________________ Yes, there crooked. |
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Aug 01, 2004 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| yea..thanks, right now im just gonna get use to landing. i get pretty good air.someday i'll be able to do all this crazy stuff! can't wait |
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IlliniBoarder Criminal

Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 69
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Posted: Aug 01, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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No matter what kind of wake you have, you can still get air as long as you are edging correctly. For a beginner, a smaller wake is probably better to make you learn the right process first, and not too big where it is intimidating...
The boat I usually ride behind is over 30 years old, 50 hp (takes over a minute to completely get me up), 15' long, has almost no wake to speak of (we can't put any extra weight in the back, or else it slows it down to the point of not pulling people up), and the rope is connected to a harness behind the outboard. I only get to board a couple weeks a year, with this boat, but I can get good wake 2 wake jumps just from edging in right. A couple days ago I had the opportunity to ride behind a rented malibu wakesetter. Compared to our boat, it was like heaven. I was getting huge air wake 2 wake without even hardly trying to edge in. Still, do the best that you can with what you have to work with...and once you do get to ride behind a nice boat, it will be great, and the wake won't be responsible for huge air. |
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Aug 02, 2004 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| hmm ok, i never thought about it that way |
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Aug 02, 2004 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| i would say to get a fat sac although there are other cheap things to do, the fat sac will add 550+ lbs. if you get a good sac |
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wakeboarder_360 Addict

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 610 City: cambridge, ontario
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Posted: Aug 02, 2004 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| fat sac will help, but no matter what wake you ride, a w2w 180 should not be too difficult. I used to do these behind a sea doo that made like a wash that was basically just a bump. |
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Aug 03, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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im gonna attempt a frontroll!  |
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boarder52002 Soul Rider

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 454 City: Chicago
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Posted: Aug 03, 2004 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| if i were you i would try a heelside invert before a ts one. it is a lot easier to get air from the hs. |
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boarder52002 Soul Rider

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 454 City: Chicago
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Posted: Aug 03, 2004 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| try a tantrum or backroll first. |
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HatzicMotive140 Soul Rider

Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 261 City: abbotsford
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Posted: Aug 03, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| i say get the spins down liek the 360 casue u will hit a block an dahve to go backwards if you don't learn spins |
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Aug 04, 2004 6:53 am Post subject: |
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oook. ill get the spins down...then ill try a tantrum...  |
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boarder52002 Soul Rider

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 454 City: Chicago
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Posted: Aug 04, 2004 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| no it doesnt matter. i learned a tantrum before i could do a 360 its no different |
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wakeguy2008 Addict

Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers
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Posted: Aug 04, 2004 7:38 am Post subject: |
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she should get her 180s and stuff down before anything....then try a raley.
im jk dont do that. _________________ Visit www.myspace.com/alecperkins to listen to my music! |
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callie Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 38 City: South Milwaukee
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Posted: Aug 05, 2004 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| lol i wasnt planning on it.. |
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