Help with big TS landings...

tommie_tantrum · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 102 City: South Africa

I keep having problems on big TS landings. I can land and ride away great if I am landing on the downslope of the other wake but as soon as I try to take it into the flats it feels as though the board sticks on landing and i go over the nose, I dont seem to have such a problem on just straight ts wake jumps but hs 180s (bs and fs) and r2revert is a problem. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

toothpick · Posted: Jun 05, 2004 7:25 am Post subject:

Try really edging on your toeside edge when you land and make sure that you are leaning directly against the rope. That will give you some line tension to keep the board between you and the boat. That's all I've got for now.

salmon_tacos · Posted: Jun 05, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject:

I don't know if this is good advice or not but it seems like when I land in the flats on a big HS 180 I often end up touching the water with my back hand out in front of my rear foot. Maybe if you actually TRY to do that, you'll end up with a good front-to-back balance and a good TS edge.

kid · Outlaw Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 248 City: chico

are there any tips jumping toeside EXCEPT progressive edge. Because i can go big heelside but toeside... Rolling Eyes

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salmon_tacos · Posted: Jun 05, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject:

I don't know any. I only go big heelside and land toeside! Embarassed

After a thorough search, if you don't find your answer, you should post a new topic like "Tips for big TOESIDE air?"

tommie_tantrum · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 102 City: South Africa

Great thanks, Il try those things tuesday, let you know how it goes.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

A few ideas--
Think about landing lower- let your knees absorb more of the blow and drop your rear hand right before impact.

Dont look at the boat or you may come off your toeside edge and slip out on your heels, or bounce out like you said.

Try giving the water a little hand check with your rear hand to make sure you are really landing low. I land real low on bigger toeside jumps and it feels real solid, the board locks in well and I dont have to lean into my toeside edge to stop from slipping out, it just seems like I can control it easier.

If you just dont like how it feels to land in the flats toeside, take a couple of agressive inside/out toeside jumps, you will most definitely land into the flats but the landing will be softer and you can control it and develop some feel. Do that and practice locking onto your toeside edge and leaning into the flats. Dont let the board land too far on the flatspot and dont let it roll to your heelside edge.

Stephan · Guest

Aside from the progressive edge the only thing is to make sure you pop and don't absorb it with your legs. You also need to make sure you give it a good cut, many people baby TS cuz they feel out of position. As for landings, keep over your toes and bend you knees. Look to the horizon in front of you.

J_DOGG · Posted: Jun 08, 2004 3:52 am Post subject:

It almost sounds like you are looking down too much.....

look out to the shore you are approaching and your head will stay up and you wont bend over at the waist and get pulled forward.

I have done entire sets just looking at the houses while I ride just to enforce the head up style of riding. It really makes stayn in balance that much easier as you have a larger field of vision as your reference tool.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

This is a good post!

and its a good sign when we repeat each other on accident hahaha

Tyler~Moore · Posted: Jun 08, 2004 2:54 pm Post subject:

Something Todd Tiller told me about ts. Edge harder than you think you have to. He said due to most peoples uncomfort TS you need to feel like your edging too fast. Also, right before I pop, I "exaggerate" standing tall. This is a very important step that without it, you wont get air. you can get air hs without standing tall, ts is a different story. So be sure to stand tall. Also, dont bend over at the waist. This will absorb your pop even if you stand tall. Right before the pop i try to push my chest out as if i were a girl showing off my tau-taus...I hope this helps

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

I find if I take a strong progressive edge into TS jumps and come back a little off edge right before I pop off the wake, and stand as tall as possible I get good air and usually slide down the backside of the wake. Keep the handle at your hips too so you can really lean back without opening up your chest. Its all about practice, just keep cutting harder and harder and standing taller and taller and you'll be getting good air in no time.

tommie_tantrum · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 102 City: South Africa

Thanks for all the suggestions and advice, I rode yesterday and found it much better, I think a large part of the problem was looking down on the landings, looking at the shore helps a lot. Thanks

bradb · Outlaw Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 204 City: Parksville

Tyler~Moore hit the nail on the head for TS air... Stand up nice and tall into the wake. Shoulders back and chest out. Don't break at the waist.
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BoardinDan · Posted: Jun 09, 2004 3:38 pm Post subject:

what i learned at TWC was to edge out toside as hard as could and basicly thats what my ts jumps would be like.. i dont really stand tall at the wake.. im standing tall all the way the wake does the rest for me.. try to get your belly button up

Nathan Newman · Addict Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 711 City: Baylor

solid progressive edge
build line tension
don't bend over at waist
stand tall at wake
land on edge
yeah buddy

MrCool32 · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 306

another thing might be where you are holding the handle. keep it down near your waist

simland · Posted: Jun 21, 2004 12:09 pm Post subject:

I think I do this progressive edge thing wrong or something because I don't get near as much air as I think I should. Only about 4-5 feet up and I want to hit 8-9. Maybe it's casue I don't have a spectra srope but I think it's my horrible edging technique. As for on topic, Toe Side sucks. I am now just starting to do it and I realized that it's easier to go w2w rather that weak sauce it and land inside the wake.

Doesn't keeping your head up sometimes result in you casing the wake or not be prepared for what lies below you?

Micky · Criminal Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 69

my ts jumps improved a lot when a friend pointed out that my handle was in the wrong place. I used to have it towards the front of my front hip. He told me to move the handle further to my ass and point my ass further towards the boat.
Dont know if this is good advice or not but it certainly made a big difference for me...

good luck m8

Mr. Mutt · Posted: Jun 22, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject:

I accidentally learned how ts should feel by trying to powerslide outside the wake. On the times that I don't get the fins to release, I find that I am WAY over my toe edge and it starts to come back to the wake really hard. So, maybe that gives you an idea of how hard you can put it over on the toe; as hard as you can without getting the fins to release...