Advice on my form (Frontside 3)

FunkmaztafoX · Outlaw Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 238 City: Charlotte

Advice on my frontside 360.

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This was unfortunately one of the only 360's my dad could get on the camera. Likewise I couldn't stick the connection. I'd say 1 out of every 4 or 5 tries I can land it; it's my first big trick Embarassed

, and I only had about 2 weeks at the end of summer to practice it.

Just looking at it I can tell that I'm taking some of my carve out and not hitting it right. Any other suggestions or things I can work on to make it better?

toothpick · Posted: Mar 16, 2004 7:02 am Post subject:

First off, can you do a wake to wake heelside frontside 180? If not, learn that first.

Your edge is very inconsistent on the way in. At the rate you start your edge, that should be a huge jump, but you back off really hard about halfway into the cut. So, for starters, ease into the edge. Do this: Cut outside the wake, then sit there neutral until the boat starts pulling you in toward the wake naturally. Then get on your edge just a bit. You'll have a lot more control and pop than you do in your avatar.

Then, initiate the spin by pulling on the handle once you're in the air. You're spinning right off the wake in the pic. That's why I asked if you can do a 180. It's the same as a wake to wake 180, you just pull slightly harder. You want to pop, then once in the air pull yourself around.

Do those things and you'll have it nice and easy. Then you can start grabbing it. Mr. Green

FunkmaztafoX · Outlaw Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 238 City: Charlotte

Thanks for the advice. Yeah I haven't tried a wake to wake 180 from that side, but I'll keep that in mind.

Stephan · Guest

Don't just keep it in mind! That's exactly what you need to do. Wake to wake, never land in the middle. Like he said you need to edge all the way up the wake the wake is not a launch ramp that you jump off of, it's a moving energy force and to harness it's upward energy you need to have more speed and hit the wake on edge.

FunkmaztafoX · Outlaw Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 238 City: Charlotte

well it's still too cold to ride, so i have to keep it in mind until it warms up Wink

kuehn · Outlaw Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 186 City: London. UK

not too bad but a bit scruffy. you dont need to take it immediately wake to wake but build up to it. a couple of thingas first off. that does not look like non stretch rope. if not the get some! soft ropes like ski line lose the pop at the wake and makeke it far more difficult to initiate the spin. This of course will get you higher. remember on a 3 no need to go for the second wake. what you want to do is take it straight up not out and you will just end up there after a few goes.
As you leave the wake you need to pick a point where you need to look to keep your axis straight. i dont look at the horizon all the way around but try to glance momentarely at the shoreline when my back is turned away from the boat, basically as you re-grab the handle with your front hand. this glance will help you to avoid getting pulled out on landing. if you study the images you leave the wake and throw the nose up then as you turn away you look down which takes you out of shape on landing ie landing with far too much rear edge causing you to lose the handle. hope this helps

FunkmaztafoX · Outlaw Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 238 City: Charlotte

you mention non-stretch ropes. any specific name brands that make this? Also I normally ride behind my neighbors Cobalt with a tower (the one in the video). From the tower, what would be a good length of rope, I can never really tell.

tparider · Posted: Mar 17, 2004 6:22 am Post subject:

Accurate and StraightLine both make a good rope. Look for the word "spectra" or "non-stretch." Line length differs depending on the boat - I ride at 75ft. Maybe start at 65ft or so, and go back in 5ft increments to decide where the wake is the cleanest.

kuehn · Outlaw Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 186 City: London. UK

Hpyerlite ropes i like best although quite expensive (in the uk). always start on the shortest and work your way back till you feel comfortable. boat wakes vary in size and width, speed also is a big factor. it will make a hell of a difference to your pop and riding in general. soft ropes are ok when starting out because of being forgiving. i would turn down a free ride behind an x star if it just has a ski line! its like riding with a big elastic band.

XxWakeboardxX · Criminal Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 87

Definitely learn the 180's first, and get them consistent, will help you out tons down the line. Don't spin off the wake, wait till you're in the air.