trampoline trick.. unknown

Greg Smith · Posted: Sep 14, 2003 7:00 pm Post subject: trampoline trick.. unknown

hey. ya i just got bought a trampoline a couple of days ago. i was trying raleys and i got tired of landing on my face so i starting doing them differently. instead of a normal raley, i would only hold on with my lead arm and have the side of my body facing down instead of my chest. this way it didnt hurt so much when i crashed. Ya i cant quite land it, but more importantly, i dont know what the trick is called. ive seen a picture of shapiro doing it.. i just cant quite get my body back underneath myself in time. Ill come back in a day or two and post a video of it. any insight on how to do it, or what its called, would be appreciated. thanks.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Sep 14, 2003 11:15 pm Post subject:

Well it sounds a bit like a 911, but it could be a TS raley, but because u let go with one hand, it could be a raley gone wrong if you were on the water. But IMO raleys are way harder on a tramp then a boat because on a tramp you havnt got the boat pulling you back down.

Greg Smith · Posted: Sep 15, 2003 8:55 am Post subject: trampoline trick

Vip, I dont really think it is a Ts Raley or a 911. For a Ts Raley, you still have you chest facing down. For a 911, I think you just turn the board back 90 degrees and not your whole body. I could be wrong. But the trick Iam doing, I turn my whole body 90 degrees. I was going to go out today and film it, but its been pouring rain all day. So hopefully I'll be able to go out in a day or two and and do that.

ORIGINryder · Posted: Sep 15, 2003 2:08 pm Post subject:

sounds like a 911 but i dont know wut u would call it since ur lettin go with ur back hand. u could try grabbing it with ur back hand that would be a batwing

Greg Smith · Posted: Sep 16, 2003 7:46 am Post subject: batwing?

yes actually i think it is kinda like a batwing. well thats the closest thing i can think of. here is a video of it. there are 3 attempts on it. none even close to landing. so if you can help me out with some advice, that'd be appreciated. thanks, later.

http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=8923

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

sounds like an ungrabbed indy glide to me. BTW if you want to get raleys you need to get pretty damn high for one. then just jump back and kick your feet straight out. when i was learning them i wouldnt go that far back. id just go out 45 degrees and work my way up. now i can get 90 degrees or more and stall it out real nice if im double bounced.

Greg Smith · Posted: Sep 16, 2003 1:21 pm Post subject: getting down

ya man i just cant get my body back underneath me.. is it possible to do a raley or indy glide on the trampoline without getting double bounced?

bizzuck · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 593

yes it is very possible... dont listen to chicken.... ok i had a guy on my trampoline for the first time and he learned them.... leave a little slack in the rope (6in) then jump till you think you high enough, jump straight up and let it out... the rope will tighten up and you should have no problem getting it back under you..

fauker~who im sure will post throws s-bens on the tramp.... nothing to it.

Greg Smith · Posted: Sep 16, 2003 2:36 pm Post subject:

cool man.. will this work for an indy glide too? cause i think thats what im doing.. look at the video that i left on here.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Sep 16, 2003 11:44 pm Post subject:

Yeah you can do anything pretty much with out a double bounce, raleys are hard to get the knack of but once u do there easy.

Greg Smith · Posted: Sep 17, 2003 9:29 am Post subject:

are there any specific requirements when using a trampoline.. like certain rope length? how high the rope should be tied on the pole or fence or whatever? etc.

Fauker · Soul Rider Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 471 City: Charlotte

raleys on the tramp are very easy... You just have to create your own line tension since the tree/pole/whatever is not pulling you forward so youll need to jump back against the rope some. So jump back, push your legs out behind you and when you extend all the way pull it back down. Easy...

I dont think taht stuff really matters, Ive most all tricks on all diff kinds of ropes tied to all diff. kinds of things..

DudeManWes · Criminal Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 96

Why dont you tie the rope up higher so its pulling you up like a tower and not down like the low pole of a boat.

Greg Smith · Posted: Sep 17, 2003 3:19 pm Post subject: meh

so how many feet of air you guys usually get for one of these raleys?

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Sep 17, 2003 11:06 pm Post subject:

I can do them with about 3-4 feet of air, but when im fully laid out im about 8ft up. I would recommend learning raleys before you do them indy glide things, and make sure you hang on with both hands. You also might want a little bit more air.

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

Ringo · Newbie Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 13 City: Lake Norman

you dont learn raleys from doing them all day long on the trampoline. you need to get out behind a boat cuz i dont think u can even do a raley and ur talkin bout batwings and 911s cmon now. Get out there haul ass in fully commit stand tall hold on fly pull the rope back and stick it in one steady motion.

Greg Smith · Posted: Sep 21, 2003 6:57 am Post subject: asdfdd

Ringo man I know. But I live in Canada and its pretty damn cold up here right now. I dont have much wakeboarding weather left. Its probably pointless to try raleys behind my boat cause we dont get a tower till next year.. Taker easy.

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

Greg Smith, other than raleys try working on frontflips and scarecrows those are fun if you have a handle and in my opinion more challenging than raleys but easier to learn,

Greg Smith · Posted: Sep 21, 2003 5:01 pm Post subject: gadefa

Hey man, you can just call me Greg. haha. Ya i can do frontrolls on the tramp pretty easy but i want to get into the frontflips and scarecrows for sure. Im getting the safety nets to go around the trampoline cause ive already fallen off twice. So hopefully ill get into it soon. Later dude.

J_DOGG · Posted: Sep 24, 2003 3:57 am Post subject:

Crow mobe on the tramp is fun, and it will make the crow on the water that much easier. You don't need that much more pop but you need to spot the landing early so you know when to pull the handle into the small of your back.

When I jump on the tramp I really try to focus on handle placement and the pull and release of the trick. I try to land everything blind also just so I can get more comfortable doing it on the water.

HS fronts are one of the coolest feeling tricks on the tramp for me, it feels like I'm in the air for a long time., can't take that to blind yet but the tramp I'm using is old and has little bounce left in it.

I find the tramp to be not only a great workout but a good confidence builder, if I can land it on the tramp about 25 times with no issues taking it to the water is usually less painful.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Sep 25, 2003 12:09 am Post subject:

Crow Mobes IMO are hard. So hard infact i cant do them, i find switch dum dum's and switch KGB's easier by miles. I can do scarecrows easy but i cant get the handle pass for a crow mobe.

J_DOGG · Posted: Sep 25, 2003 7:12 am Post subject:

I don't pass the handle for the crow mobe on the tramp I just stuff it in my back pocket on the way down, I pass it once I bounce back up.
When I see them done on the water these always looked the best to me so that's how I have started to learn them.

It's funny you mention that though cuz I find other tricks super easy on the tramp that some peeps just cant do. Like for me I can do the switch T to B all day long, not that's it's hard but I can't do a regular T to B to save my life even though I can do a regular whirlly bird and the crow mobe which in my mind are much harder tricks....

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Sep 26, 2003 12:21 am Post subject:

I cant even back flip, im to scared to try them Embarassed

ANd with my crow mobes my body just wont let me turn. SO, ive thought switch dum dum 5's would be easier then a crow mobe.

J_DOGG · Posted: Sep 26, 2003 8:45 am Post subject:

I only did front flips on the tramp at first also, once you get a few full out back flips (Tantrums) you will find those are actually easier... cuz you can spot the landing while you are up side down.... and on the front flips you need to look either at the horizon or down between your legs to spot the landing, more chance of over or under rotating..

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Sep 27, 2003 3:47 am Post subject:

I did a trick the other day, well 2 but any ways.

I bounce and do a front roll and do an over head bs 180. They got a name for that?

ANd i do a front roll and i hold my hand down so there lower then my head and then i do a bs 180 with both hands on the handle theres no handle pass and i dont land blind, its like doing a half an s-bend perpendicular to the water.

J_DOGG · Posted: Sep 29, 2003 8:47 am Post subject:

vip20882000-on part two of your last post---I would say close to a tootsie roll but I pass the handle for that, not sure how or what you are doing to pull that with out passing... Front roll looking down and away passing the handle to the small of the back and spinning a BS 180 landing switch would be a Tootsie roll. If you are leaving the tramp in a front roll motion and holding on with your back hand doing a BS 180 I'd call that a whacky (ole TS front to blind???? anyone???)

On the last one depending on when you actually spin check it again cuz you must be spinning front side.. I know it gets all confusing once you get upside down and when the spin actually starts and all but going through what you describe in my head tells me you are spinning front side on the way down (based on what foot was in front when you take off) and I'd call that a laid out Crow..... Sounds like you are doing some whacky stuff but you are getting inverted so that helps with the air awareness and will only help on the water... try to stay as fundamentally sound on the tramp as you can, this will make taking it to the water so much easier....

As the sayn' goes "Tramps fun but can you land it behind the boat?" I get that all the time when I tell my Dogg's I'm landing crow mobes on the tramp now and it will only be a matter of time before I get them on the water. I always try to think of every aspect of the trick from pop to landing on the tramp and use it strictly as a training tool.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Sep 30, 2003 5:36 am Post subject:

The other way i can describe it is a front roll over head back side 180 for my first one.
For my 2nd one im sure im spinning back side but i could b doing it front side. But the easiet way 2 describe it is an s-bend perpendicular to the water.

Yeah thats true what ya sayd "Tramps fun but can you land it behind the boat?" but then im sure if we could do what we could do on a tramp there would be lots of pros around.

J_DOGG · Posted: Sep 30, 2003 11:40 am Post subject:

I agree, I allway through back, yeah but if you can't do it on the tramp you will have no chance of doing it on the water, so why are you stuck with the same old trick pass??? they hate that one....

Greg Smith · Posted: Sep 30, 2003 4:29 pm Post subject: fasfa

vip and j-dogg.. what are your guys tramp set up? like how many feet are the tramps? where are your ropes located, or what are they tied to? do you have safety nets ???

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Sep 30, 2003 9:51 pm Post subject:

Greg Smith, my tramp is 8ftx6ft (its a rectangle tramp). The rope would be about 9 or 10 ft off the ground and its tied to my roof. And no, i dont have safety nets ive only hurt myself like twice and it wasnt serious.

J_DOGG · Posted: Oct 01, 2003 3:42 am Post subject:

Mine is your typical round one you can get at most sporting goods stores, I think it's 12 feet wide or maybe even bigger.
I do have the safety net around it cuz my buddies kids use it all the time, it's really supposed to be for them..LOL...
My rope is tied of to a tree up nice and high, I run it through the door opening and have had no issues with it getting all caught up.