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Adam Criminal
Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 71 City: Regina
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 12:06 pm Post subject: Bayliner 175 |
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Hey everyone i was just wondering if anyone owns or has riding behind a Bayliner 175. I want to know how the wake is. Or if anyone knows about and boats under 20g's that throw a good wake. Thanks |
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Jon Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1176
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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hey man. I had a bayliner 1850 with tower and balast and all that stuff and it just wouldn't do the job. we recently sold it and we are buying an inboard wakeboard type boat. I would look at a used mid-late 90s inboard and put a tower and stuff on it. The wake was alright behind our bayliner but was just not tournament quality or the right shape. |
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hazza_35 Criminal
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 87 City: kerang
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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if it is an i/o use the trim and u will get a sick lip on ur wake, trust me it works with outboards so an i/o wont be different, and add some sacs in it and u will be in heaven
CHEERZ _________________ {R.I.P Mark Kenney}
RIDE ON BUDDY! |
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ricktrav Criminal
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 54 City: san diego
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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I just switched from a bayliner to a 88 ski nautique 2001, it was way under 20k i got it for 8,100 which is just a little belo average for th boat. I did alot of research and ski nautiques between 1982 and 1989 always rose to the top. |
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orzech Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1155 City: Honeoye
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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hey, i got the same exact boat..... for 8500 what stuff did yours come with?
I got 1250 lbs of sacs a 1000pgh pump extended pylon w/ board racks a neo vest, wakeskate, and cleaners and safety gear. _________________ GOT NAUTIQUE? |
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MadDog Soul Rider
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 465 City: Upstate NY
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Posted: Jan 27, 2003 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Don't do it! I can't wait to get rid of my I/O. If you have $20k to spend, get a used inboard. The wakes on the I/o's can be made bigger with a lot of weight, but they are still pretty soft. You can do a lot with $20k and a used inboard. _________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
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Adam Criminal
Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 71 City: Regina
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Posted: Jan 27, 2003 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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well i dont know guys i dont really want that old but does anyone know how much it cost to ship a boat from say florda to canada? |
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cutupiilu Newbie
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 3
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Posted: Jan 28, 2003 2:23 am Post subject: bayliner |
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bayliner 175 has 3.0L 130HP
costs 16 600 here..
I consider it as an option fro upcoming season.. but I dunno anytihng about wake, stability etc |
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Ryan W Soul Rider
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 452 City: Ontario,Canada
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Posted: Jan 28, 2003 7:42 am Post subject: |
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The exchange rate is gonna kill you when buying a boat from the States. _________________ Gas,Grass or Ass nobody rides for free. |
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Adam Criminal
Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 71 City: Regina
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Posted: Jan 28, 2003 9:01 am Post subject: |
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ya i know but all the good boats seem to be in the states so i dont know what im going to do. |
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MobyRick Outlaw
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 247 City: Greer, SC
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Posted: Jan 28, 2003 11:27 am Post subject: |
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I had a 1850 and that's what I learned with but if you are at all serious I don't think you could weight it down enough. I ended up buying my Moomba only a year after getting the Bayliner. Heres pics of both unweighted except for people in the boat. You decide. |
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seven20 Soul Rider
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 356 City: Gainesville
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Posted: Jan 28, 2003 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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orzech and rick, great choices. we just bought an 87 2001. Great boat. As for the bayliner, we have a 1950 capri, and the wake is far from great. Even with 2 sacs and 6-8 people, it is meteokere. It has some size, but the shape isn't very good at all. The wake behind the nautique was better with no wake when we tested it. Get a used inboard. |
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Dan Lee Newbie
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 48 City: Scottsdale
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Posted: Jan 29, 2003 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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In my opinion, having the v-8's weight and power is far better than having a 4 cylinder and trying to weigh it down, then making it sluggish. I learned behind an '82 Sea Ray 175 which did the trick, but it was painful. Two words- Moomba Outback. _________________ www.surfsideboats.com AZ's inboard source www.supramoombariders.com |
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trigx5 Newbie
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 21 City: atlanta, ga
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Posted: Jan 30, 2003 9:14 pm Post subject: bayliner 185 |
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If you want a used inboard from the states, waterford michigan has one of the largest mastercraft dealerships in the world. Not sure what part of Canada your in, but Michigan is full of good boats. I would also advise against the bayliner |
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Butta Seeka Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1970 City: rowlet, tx.
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Posted: Jan 31, 2003 7:18 am Post subject: |
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i agree with dan go for the out back there a like 25,000 so a little over what ur wanting to spend but well worth it for the money, stay away from bayliners _________________ "We forget in life that we are not human beings living a spritual experience, but spritual beings living a human experiance."
-Shawn Akers 1971-2001 |
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Dan Lee Newbie
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 48 City: Scottsdale
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Posted: Jan 31, 2003 8:42 am Post subject: |
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I was only saying "Outback" because I am a dealer, and it is a great boat that just about anyone can afford with "New Boat Interest Rates"
We could put people working at McDonalds into new inboards. _________________ www.surfsideboats.com AZ's inboard source www.supramoombariders.com |
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Adam Criminal
Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 71 City: Regina
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Posted: Feb 02, 2003 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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ya but thats 25000 US and the exchange rate will kill me |
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wake2wake Soul Rider
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 311 City: Lexington
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Posted: Feb 03, 2003 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Don't count the I/O out of the game , it has lot to do with how you weight your boat!!! and if you have the power to weight it!! Even weight.
Here is a pic of my boat wake with out weight, just using the trim and, with 1300 pounds plus passengers It's much larger and lippy!!! But the right inboards do carry a sweet shape to them
peace |
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Ralph Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1144 City: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Feb 03, 2003 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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There's more to wakes than size & shape, firmness is some thing which is very difficult to achieve with an I/O. Having said that with a lot of trial and error you can get most i/o's to produce excellent softish wakes even if they have small motors. Prop pitch is critical to maintaining power with an I/O. Attached is a bayliner wake powered by a 3L 130hp motor, 2k of ballast + 4 peeps. _________________ Niiiiiiiiice |
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wake2wake Soul Rider
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 311 City: Lexington
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Posted: Feb 03, 2003 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Good word !!
i was going to say that but i figured i had blew enough smoke, I have found that if you drop from say a 19 to a 17p, (Or smaller then what you have) with a Min. of four bladed s.s. prop it will in fact produce a clean firm wake!! i'm looking in to bying a a high five stainless prop i've heard good things about the prop but never have had one to try!
they are not cheap either. you will be suprised at how good of a hole shot you get, and the best thing is it will allow you to give a steady pull!!!!! I've heard people say you'll over rap the motor, (That's why they put tachs in the boats) which is true if your running the boat wide open with no weight. but drop 1500# in her and a group of friends and you'll be ready to rock and roll!
not all I/O suck lol
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Alter Ego Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 2019 City: Toronto / Bala
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Posted: Feb 04, 2003 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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darren my man............good to hear from you and your bayliner. biggest i/o wake i've ever seen.....much bigger and better shape than a lot of inboards....
I have a searay 160 i/o.....250 upfront and 400 in the back....trim up and let her fly. |
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salmon_tacos Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 2498 City: Austin
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Posted: Feb 05, 2003 10:18 am Post subject: |
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OK, I'm going to have to take some wake pictures next time I go out to try to dampen the anti-I/O predjudice.
I got a '99 Mariah 20-foot I/O w/ a V-8 and only 30 hours on it for around $15K. The unweighted wake on it is pretty similar to Ralph's above, bigger with a single fat sac. I think that's a pretty good value. I added a "mini-tower" that I got on Ebay for around $700. I also got the sack on Ebay with a pump for under $100. So that totals under $16K for an almost new modern boat with tower, ballast, tandem trailer, lots of storage, good rough water performance, >55 mph top speed, 10 person capacity, nice sundeck, etc.
Sure, I'd rather have a new (or used) Super Air, VLS, 23V, etc. but I think the price on a 3-4 year-old boat like that is probably double what my boat cost. |
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Ralph Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1144 City: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Feb 05, 2003 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Alter,
I haven't been posting much lately but I've still been around, I've been meaning to get some new photo's I do it next weekend if I remember the camera. The seasons been good here, another 3 months to go give or take. Going to X-air today yippie! _________________ Niiiiiiiiice |
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