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eeven73 PityDaFool Who Posts This Much
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 5377 City: Halfway
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 8:24 am Post subject: Women in Combat |
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Well, I guess the countdown starts to the first woman POW horror story.
Thoughts?
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chavez Ladies Man
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 10:48 am Post subject: |
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More power to them. No problems with it at all.
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JV Wakeboarder.com Freak
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:06 am Post subject: |
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As always, it's not going to be the women that are going to pose a potential problem, it's going to be the men's reaction to them.
Will they take orders from a woman under fire?
Will they forego training and tactics to "protect" a female soldier more than they would another male, especially when wounded?
etc., etc.
I have no problem with anyone who willfully puts themselves in harm's way in service of our country.
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b_girl Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 1423 City: Toronto
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:54 am Post subject: |
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I actually didn't know that they weren't allowed until we heard on the news that they are now. It kind of came as a shock to me. So yeah, I don't see any problems with it at all.
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Chattwake Wakeboarder.com Freak
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Google IDF women. Mmmmmmmmmm.
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RampageWake Wakeboarder.Commie
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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If they ever instituted a draft, could/should they draft women now? Or only men, and if not, why not? From a legal perspective...
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Okie Boarder Ladies Man
Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 10056 City: Edmond
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I love a woman that can handle a weapon.
I'm all for it and think if they want to be in combat, they should. I'm sure there will be some issues like JV brought up for a while, but those will get weeded out with time and discipline I would think.
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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What was the question?
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eich82 Addict
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see any problem with this, but only if they make men's and women's PT requirements the same. My understanding is that they have two different standards/minimum requirements for men and women.
I'd be damned if I'd be okay going into combat with a woman (or any other person) who wasn't held to the same physical requirements as I was.
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jgriffith Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 21 Mar 2012 Posts: 1454 City: Boerne
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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What eich82 said
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Swass Soul Rider
Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 427
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Women in Combat |
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Several women have already been held as POWs. The "countdown" started a long time ago.
eeven73 wrote: | Well, I guess the countdown starts to the first woman POW horror story.
Thoughts? |
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Swass Soul Rider
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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To quote the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman General Martin Depsey:
"If members of our military can meet the qualifications for a job -- and let me be clear, I'm not talking about reducing the qualifications for the job -- if they can meet the qualifications for the job, then they should have the right to serve, regardless of creed or color or gender or sexual orientation," he said."
So, when are you headed off to combat, tough guy?
eich82 wrote: | I don't see any problem with this, but only if they make men's and women's PT requirements the same. My understanding is that they have two different standards/minimum requirements for men and women.
I'd be damned if I'd be okay going into combat with a woman (or any other person) who wasn't held to the same physical requirements as I was. |
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Swass Soul Rider
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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This is really not that big of a deal, folks. For all intents and purposes, women have been serving in combat for years now. Decades, even. I see this as more of a formal acknowledgement than anything else.
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Swass Soul Rider
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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fish6942, you win the Ignorant Post of the Day award.
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JV Wakeboarder.com Freak
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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What crawled up fake Swass's ass?
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Faust Wakeboarder.Commie
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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He's probably in the kitchen baking and feeling really bitter.
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fish6942 Addict
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Swass wrote: | fish6942, you win the Ignorant Post of the Day award. |
That time of the month, huh?
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fish6942 Addict
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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eich82 wrote: | I don't see any problem with this, but only if they make men's and women's PT requirements the same. My understanding is that they have two different standards/minimum requirements for men and women. |
During the time that I served, this was absolutely the case.
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eich82 Addict
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Swass wrote: | fish6942, you win the Ignorant Post of the Day award. |
And may I present you with the douche bag post of the day award! Congrats to all!
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Porterwake Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 2078 City: Wisconsin
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Pfft, as if there are really front lines anymore. We hit with drone strikes and supervise villages. This is all puffy legislation.
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Nor*Cal Ladies Man
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac
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Posted: Jan 26, 2013 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Chattwake wrote: | Google IDF women. Mmmmmmmmmm. |
Exactly my thoughts... The Israelis are pretty versed in this arena and it works for them.
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shaggyboarder Wakeboarder.Commie
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Posted: Jan 26, 2013 8:37 am Post subject: |
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I dont see any problem with it. The physical tests wouldnt scare me as much as lets say an emotional test. Ever see a pissed off girlfriend? How would their emotions hold up in similar situations. Then again on the counterside to that maybe men soldiers have become so isolated from their emotions they can make poor decisions for example by firing on innocent people.
As a whole though the larger our armed forces are the stronger they will be.
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tball Wakeboarder.com Freak
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Posted: Jan 28, 2013 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Not a big deal. Way overdue.
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goofyboy Wakeboarder.com Freak
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Posted: Jan 28, 2013 4:31 am Post subject: |
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They want combat pay for being in combat zones, as well as the clasification for being in combat. It opens up more promotion opportunities. To me, if you are somewhere that is being fired on, you are in a combat position. As far as special forces go, GI Jane was a cool movie. Go for it.
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vette74 Wakeboarder.Commie
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Posted: Jan 28, 2013 9:12 am Post subject: |
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tball, What are you doing now that you are done with the Army?
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tball Wakeboarder.com Freak
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Posted: Jan 28, 2013 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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^^Wow, that is a question I daydream about!! I still have a couple of years left until I'm in the retirement window. The first thing I will do is become a Texas resident again! After that, no clue
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vette74 Wakeboarder.Commie
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Posted: Jan 29, 2013 10:19 am Post subject: |
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For some reason I thought you had your 20. Let me know when you get back I'll buy you a beer.
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tball Wakeboarder.com Freak
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Posted: Feb 01, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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That's a deal!
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