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Alan Whitaker Outlaw
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 116 City: Whiteland
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Posted: Jan 25, 2003 9:16 am Post subject: Strapping the rear of the boat down. |
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Did you new boat come with rear straps? Do they rub the boats gel coat? _________________ Hard Work/Work Hard = SUCCESS |
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dlb988 Newbie
Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 36
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Posted: Jan 25, 2003 9:55 am Post subject: |
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My boat did not come with them. I bought them the next day. I use heavy innertube cut outs so there is no rubbing on the gelcoat. others use carpet.
Cut out slots on the top and bottom of your pad and run the strap through the slots. That way they will not slip and always be with the straps. |
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Geoff Standish Addict
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 843 City: Calgary
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Posted: Jan 25, 2003 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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I've never used straps, our dealer told us that there is law here and that we should. But over his years he has never had a problem, and thus we have never used ours! |
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ohsix PityDaFool Who Posts This Much
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 6837
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Posted: Jan 25, 2003 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Phaeton Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 572 City: Redding
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Posted: Jan 25, 2003 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Our boat did not come with straps but was one of the first things purchased. I have seen a wheel come off a boat trailer causing it to swerve and the boat came off as well because it did not have the rear straps.
My trailer is set up so the straps do not rub agains the boat. _________________ Travis Farber |
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Geoff Standish Addict
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 843 City: Calgary
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Posted: Jan 25, 2003 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Phaeton,
What kind of boat was this that fell off the trailor...I think you would need to do something exceptionally stupid to knock an inboard boat off the trailor. |
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bluefish86 Wakeboarder.Commie
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1539 City: Ottawa
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Posted: Jan 25, 2003 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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My boat came with rear straps, and those straps came with rubber guards to protect the gel coat. Because of the way my trailer is built, it's impossible to set it up so that the straps don't touch the gel coat.
Geoff, if you read his post, a wheel fell off causing the trailer to swerve wildly. I'm pretty sure that's enough to cause an inboard to come off a trailer. |
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Phaeton Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 572 City: Redding
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Posted: Jan 25, 2003 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Mastercraft. Looked like straw all over the highway. _________________ Travis Farber |
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George Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 552 City: Chattanooga
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Geoff Standish Addict
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 843 City: Calgary
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ok well, in order for that boat to come off the trailor the bow winch strap must not have been on (or it broke). Think about it (Assuming the bow strap is done up), for a boat to come off the trailor it would have to bounce itself so high that it clears the running gear over the trailor support rails, but even before that could happen you would have to break the trailor guides.
I'm not saying that strapping the back is a bad idea, I'm just saying in order for that boat to come off the trailor something major has to be over looked... |
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Phaeton Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 572 City: Redding
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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When the trailer swerved the boat bounced and hit the top of the trailer guide. That flipped the trailer and sent the boat flying. Trailer came off the tow rig also.
There was another incident on the boards last year where a guy went over a cattle guard and the leaf spring broke shooting the trailer into the air. He said the rear straps saved the boat. _________________ Travis Farber |
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kstateskier Criminal
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 53 City: Manhattan, KS
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Geoff,
If a boat shifts at highway speeds in an accident, the trailer guides will snap like a pretzel, same with the bow strap. If you are only using a bow strap, a bow safety chain is a good idea IMO. Also, they way people pull boats now, ie 80mph+, any good sized bumb can dislodge a boat from a trailer. Plus in an accident, you really want the boat and the trailer staying together, which won't happen without straps. |
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hazza_35 Criminal
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 87 City: kerang
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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yes my boat came with straps and its the most worthy money spent getting some iff u dont have em! _________________ {R.I.P Mark Kenney}
RIDE ON BUDDY! |
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Geoff Standish Addict
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 843 City: Calgary
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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In no way am I saying that strapping the back isn't a good idea. But look, if your trailor comes off your truck you are hooped if you have straps or not. Like he said it flipped the trailor as well as the boat...And if bow straps can break like you say then you are pretty much damned if you do and damned if you don't. If a bow strap can break then the straps off the back can break too.
I guess if you used a bow chain in addition to the rear straps you might be safe. But on my boat the "U" bolt that you attach your bow chain to is welded to the frame. That weld is alot smaller than the welds on my trailor guides. And if you say those can trailor guides can snap off at highway speeds I doubt that bow chain weld will hold.
I have yet to or hear of a design from you guys that I can find totally safe...Our old boat we used to put 2 straps around the sides of the boat and to the trailor (Our trailor was two big for our boat and it used to bounce around) Now if you guys were doing this I would say it is safe (But it seems anything can break).
I think it comes down to where you want to draw the line. My dealer said he has never heard of a problem from people not strapping the backs down. And I believe him. For any of the straps (Bow, transom, bow chain etc) to come into effect you need to get yourself into something fairly catistrophic. And well at that point, straps or no straps you are done!
Maybe I will strap the back down on a long trip...
Sorry for the long post... |
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Phaeton Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 572 City: Redding
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Posted: Jan 26, 2003 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Geoff another way to look at it. If something were to happen and the straps failed you would not be held liable. But if you didn't have straps on the back then you have left yourself wide open. _________________ Travis Farber |
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OttoNP Addict
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 848 City: MI
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Posted: Jan 27, 2003 5:40 am Post subject: |
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In this day and age your always liable, straps or no straps.
I've never seen a boat come off a trailer while driving but I've seen some get shifted from road bumps without straps. One shifted enough so that the fender touched the side of the boat, not a big deal just scratches, it was an I/O. I would use straps, not sure why you wouldn't, they are easy enough to put on. Even if your boat doesn't fall off, they keep your trailer and boat together, I imagine that without them on bumps the two separate slightly and then slam together.
Nick
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MadDog Soul Rider
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 465 City: Upstate NY
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Posted: Jan 27, 2003 7:15 am Post subject: |
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I have to agree, for a realtively small price you are protecting yourself that much more. Maybe they would snap in some extreme situations, but they may save you in others. It is definetly worth a few $$$ in my opinion. _________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
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Geoff Standish Addict
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 843 City: Calgary
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Posted: Jan 27, 2003 7:58 am Post subject: |
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The main reason we don't use straps is because our lake is a 1 minute drive from our house, in which time we probably won't break 50 km/h. This is our first year with the new boat, and we did buy the straps. We've just never found ourselves in a position where we've needed them. Maybe if we go on some long trips I will strap it down. I agree it is best to be safe... |
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Phaeton Addict
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 572 City: Redding
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Posted: Jan 27, 2003 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Of course on short trips we also leave the straps off. _________________ Travis Farber |
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