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bammer24 Newbie
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 14 City: Akron, OH
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Posted: May 01, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject: how to get closer to the boat with the A-Line |
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here's the deal went out today for the first time with my new line (A-Line) nice rope and that but i had it at the shortest loop hole but it just seemed like i was back anywhere from 3 to 7 feet from the clean edge of the wake. i tried everything to have the boat slow down, speed up, trim up/down...nothing work. has anybody ever tried to short the rope someway. i'm just hesitant to mess up the outer coating because it is a brand new line...thanks
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JV Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 3881 City: San Diego
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Posted: May 01, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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is it too late to trade in for a jacket line?
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bammer24 Newbie
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 14 City: Akron, OH
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Posted: May 01, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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yea i bought it back at the cleveland boat show in febuary or january, anyway it's mine now so i just have to make it work...
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savage3221 Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 3856 City: Austin, TX
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Posted: May 01, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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bammer24, there was a link on here showing how to tie a knot that holds, but isn't really a "knot" so it just comes right undone. I use it, but would rather have the pictures and their description than tell you how, it would be easier, I'll try to find it.
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thane_dogg Outlaw
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Posts: 187 City: Corona
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Posted: May 01, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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clove hitch.
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Darin Guest
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Posted: May 02, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Move the tower forward on the boat.
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kwoehler Newbie
Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 17 City: Lake of the Ozarks
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Posted: May 03, 2006 8:16 am Post subject: |
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there's a way to shorten your rope w/o making a knot or messing up the coating. it's really hard to explain, so just try and follow, and sorta mess with it in your own way. first off, you HAVE to have a pylon. then, make two loops about 4 inches apart, and about 6 inches around. put the loop closest to the hondle over the pylon, then bring the other one under it, then back over the pylon, when you pull the handle tight, it will cinch it down, and you'll have the exact length you want. i used to have to do this all the time before the 2.5 foot extensions came out. hope this helps. later.
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bammer24 Newbie
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 14 City: Akron, OH
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Posted: May 03, 2006 8:33 am Post subject: |
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well i found this, is this what your talking about
i'm going to try this today and see how it works
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kwoehler Newbie
Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 17 City: Lake of the Ozarks
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Posted: May 03, 2006 10:06 am Post subject: |
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that's exactly it, i forgot that you have to overlap the loops, but yeah, that's exactly what i used to do, i've just been babied the past few years with the right length ropes for the wakes i've been riding. but anyway that should work perfect, and you can adjust it within inches of where you need it. that's also a really good way to dial in the sweet spot for wakesurfing. later.
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Tyler T Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 4772 City: Portland
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Nauty Addict
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 827 City: Lake Dallas
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Posted: May 04, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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I have an A-line and wanted it shorter as well. I shortened mine 5 feet. Here is how I did it.
First I determined where I wanted the end of the main line to be (what length). I then cut the rope about 9 inches past this point. Next, I very carefully cut through the coating with a razor blade (without cutting the inner rope) and then peeled it back 18 inches, exposing 18 inches of the inner rope. Next I slid some heat shrink down the rope (we'll return to that in a minute). Next I folded the exposed rope in half (making a loop). About 3 inches from the base of the loop I tied a single knot. Next I slid the heat shrink up to cover the 3 inch section below the base of the knot I made. I hit it with a hair dryer and Presto! A shorter rope that looks like it came that way from the manufacturer.
I also did the same procedure with one of the 5 foot extensions. I shortened one of those down to 3 feet.
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billyjodonjimbob Soul Rider
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 280 City: Seattle
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Posted: May 04, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Seriously, that is just a clove hitch. Very simple. If you wanted to have a more permenant loop, you could tie a bowline too.
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LFADAM PityDaFool Who Posts This Much
Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 5283 City: New York City
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Posted: May 04, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Theres another one that I prefer over a clove hitch. Its hard to explain but you fold the rope over so you get basically 2 identical loops side by side with the ends of the rope going in the same direction. You fold one loop on top of the other so its 1 circle but its 2 loops, then you make grab the 2 loops and do a half twist to make a figure 8, then fold it in half again so its 1 circle and 4 loops. YOu put the 4 loops over the tow point and pull it tight. Works great and isnt nearly as complex as it sounds.
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P hat in Cincy Soul Rider
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 493 City: Greater Cincinnati
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Posted: May 04, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject: Line shortening method...12 pic tutorial. |
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Here's the method we use.
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At the length you want, make a loop around your thumb. |
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Loop the 2 'end' strands around the back of your hand. |
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Loop the 2 'end' strands across the palm of your hand. |
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Grab the 3 strands lying across your palm. |
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P hat in Cincy Soul Rider
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 493 City: Greater Cincinnati
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Posted: May 04, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject: continuing... |
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continuing...
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Work the 2 strands from the back of your hand and 1 strand from wrist over your clinched fist. |
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Pull the 2 strands from the back of your hand and 1 from your wrist over your fingers. |
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Continue to hold the 3 strands to form a 'loop." |
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P hat in Cincy Soul Rider
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 493 City: Greater Cincinnati
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Posted: May 04, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject: Finishing... |
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and finishing up...
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Place the loop over the tow point. |
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savage3221 Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 3856 City: Austin, TX
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Posted: May 04, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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P hat in Cincy, hahahaha, very detailed, STAR!
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ColinP Newbie
Joined: 10 May 2010 Posts: 12 City: San Francisco
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Posted: May 21, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for the tip!
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Enygma Soul Rider
Joined: 26 Jul 2009 Posts: 356
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Posted: May 22, 2010 12:16 am Post subject: |
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or you could just speed up the boat which will clean up the wake farther back....how fast do you usually go?
I personally don't concentrate on speed, I just thumbs up(to speed up or down(to slow down) to get the wake how I want it at my riding distance, the people I ride with know to move around if the wake is white washing.
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scott a Ladies Man
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810
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Posted: May 22, 2010 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Enygma wrote: | or you could just speed up the boat which will clean up the wake farther back....how fast do you usually go? | fyi- this thread is 4 years old
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Enygma Soul Rider
Joined: 26 Jul 2009 Posts: 356
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Posted: May 22, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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It wasn't me that bumped it, It was ColinP.
There's forum newbies bumping 5 year old threads all over the place these days. It's kind of annoying:P
I never even looked at the date...
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ColinP Newbie
Joined: 10 May 2010 Posts: 12 City: San Francisco
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Posted: May 24, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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nothing wrong with dusting off some old threads!
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