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flyhigh Addict
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 809 City: Monticello
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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: First time snowboarding... Lessons?? |
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Whats up guys, so here is my question.. I have been snow skiing a number of times, and am pretty good at it.. Ive been wakeboarding now for 5-6 years now, and had a ton of folks say that I really need to try snowboarding next time I go. Well I think I am going to give it a shot this year. I am just wondering if you would suggest taking a half day lesson, or just jump right into it. I really think that I could just jump right into it, but I don't want to be to naive about it.. Any input is appreciated. thanks _________________ www.blackwaterrydas.com |
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Wakebrad Ladies Man
Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas
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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I always recommend people take a lesson. The mechanics are very different from wakeboarding, especially on the heelside edge where behind a boat you can just lean on the rope. Snowboarding you have to learn to balance that edge. I was in the same situation as you 6 years back, took a half day lesson which helped a lot and was still busting my ass on every run.
Snowboarding you steer with your back foot and put your weight on your front foot. That and you really have to swing your back foot, and pretty much whole body to switch edges. Lessons are usually pretty cheap too. You want to get the most out of your trip and pick it up ASAP so you can get proficient. _________________ You have just entered the twilight zone. |
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pet575 Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 3630 City: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 9:14 am Post subject: |
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flyhigh, I just did this last winter. I took a 2-hour lesson, and took a pounding during it because of my wakeboard habits. However, I enjoyed the next 3.5 days of my trip and took a lot fewer falls as time went on. I don't think I'd have enjoyed myself at all if I didn't get the lesson.
Wakebrad's take is dead-on. You don't think about having to put all your weight on your front foot, and I would've never thought to do that without some instruction. It really seems like the LAST direction you would lean-especially if you are used to skiing and leaning back at times while carving or doing moguls.
As a bonus, it helps make you a better wakeboarder when you get back to that.
Get the lesson, FTW. _________________
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hanssapo Soul Rider
Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 450 City: Mexico
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Posted: Feb 13, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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flixmaster Site Owner
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 7487
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Posted: Feb 13, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Coming out of Texas.....I had no idea what it would be like to snowboard. I was lucky enough to have a friend that took me down the hill the first time and gave me some instruction. Next trip I will probably take an actual lesson. I suggest the lesson. _________________ Wakeskating
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m_lesney Soul Rider
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 358 City: Austin
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Posted: Feb 13, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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I lived in big bear ca for years was good a snowboarding yes def take lessons |
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SKIPPY PB Newbie
Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 20
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Posted: Feb 23, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: First time snowboarding... Lessons?? |
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flyhigh wrote: | Whats up guys, so here is my question.. I have been snow skiing a number of times, and am pretty good at it.. Ive been wakeboarding now for 5-6 years now, and had a ton of folks say that I really need to try snowboarding next time I go. Well I think I am going to give it a shot this year. I am just wondering if you would suggest taking a half day lesson, or just jump right into it. I really think that I could just jump right into it, but I don't want to be to naive about it.. Any input is appreciated. thanks |
Deffinatly jsut jump right into it. Lessons dont do stuff, if you want technique go on youtube and search how to snowboard, how to carve and all that junk.
For example I did that for skiing and on my first day i fell like 10 times on the bunny hill, but by the end of the day i coudl do black diamonds and could ski backwards.(I did play hockey for all my life though) But it is amazing what youtube can teach you, or rather what you can teach yourself.. |
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5280Hawk Criminal
Joined: 22 Sep 2008 Posts: 90 City: Denver, CO
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Posted: Mar 19, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: |
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It's wierd, When you start out, you do really have to emphasize your movements and kick your back foot around out to switch edges, but that's also a product of going slow(because you're learning). Once your comfortable on the board, you can even out the weight on your feet, even lean back. And when youre really cruising, you just lean and the board tracks under you with no noticable effort. |
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prior40 Addict
Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: 579 City: Palo Alto
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Posted: Mar 19, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'd suggest the lesson because when I first started I picked up some nasty habits with my riding that really prevented me from progressing. I took a lesson about 6 years ago and my riding improved right away. |
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cross12920 Newbie
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 35 City: Norman
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Posted: Mar 25, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: |
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I snowboarded for the first time last year and had been wakeboarding for about three years or so. I took a half day lesson the first day and was doing black runs later that day. I think with a wakeboarding background you can pick it up really fast as long as you have someone to tell you how to do it. I told the instructor at the beginning I wakeboarded and so he kind of related things to wakeboarding. So I would say go with a half day of lessons. |
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AGirl Newbie
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 6 City: Hobart
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Posted: Apr 01, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Definitely do a lesson. The instructors will have tips that they can show you right there and then rather than you trying to remember what you read on a website. Plus you can watch others in your group and try and mimic them or see what they are doing wrong. I tried to learn myself and ended up stuffing it mid-day with a bruised backside. When I took my lesson the next time (a year later) I was rippin' by the end. And personally I don't feel like i am using many of the same technics as when I am wakeboarding.
Many people can definitely teach themselves, but like Prior40 said it is very easy to pick up bad habits. When I took up DH Biking I just went for it and tried to do what my guy buddies said to do. But I reached a point where I couldn't progress for some reason. It wasn't until I took a lesson at Whistler that I learned the proper techniques to racing and riding as a girl.
I don't know of any case where a lesson made things worse.
Oh, and wear some wristgaurds and something to protect your backside. When you learn it hurts like hell, it's not like when you fall on skis, at all.
GOOD LUCK!! |
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criminally_minded Wakeboarder.com Freak
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2922 City: An ocean of vibrant sound
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Posted: Apr 02, 2009 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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My $0.02..
If you are going with a group of friends who already ride and have some patience, just learn off of them. You'll probably learn quicker because you will be pushed, you'll save money and you don't have to deal with instructors. Most people don't realise, but if you get an entry level lesson, you most likely are being taught by someone who has only just learned to ride themselves. They might look like they know what they are doing but only the basics. I have witnessed on so many occasions people coming to ski resorts (especially from places like Australia and the UK) having never seen snow before, getting 2-3 lessons themselves, and then taking their level one instructors test. Don't be fooled, the word instructor is not as impressive as it sounds. There is a reason everyone else on the hill calls the level one instructors 'babysitters'.
If you are going to the hill alone though, or your friends don't have the patience to teach you (it can be hard, I'll admit, to stick with a first timer on the greens when there is a foot of fresh in the trees), then a lesson might not be a bad idea. You really are paying more for the right to cut lift lines and have some company than anything else though.
Three seasons as a lifty has made me hate Ski Schoolers (the instructors, not the newbs) with a passion, so I'm biased. It should be your choice. Make sure you learn a few Ski School jokes though, whatever you do! _________________ Terminate high thinking |
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AGirl Newbie
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 6 City: Hobart
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Posted: Apr 02, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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criminally_minded wrote: | My $0.02..
If you are going with a group of friends who already ride and have some patience, just learn off of them. You'll probably learn quicker because you will be pushed, you'll save money and you don't have to deal with instructors. Most people don't realise, but if you get an entry level lesson, you most likely are being taught by someone who has only just learned to ride themselves. They might look like they know what they are doing but only the basics. I have witnessed on so many occasions people coming to ski resorts (especially from places like Australia and the UK) having never seen snow before, getting 2-3 lessons themselves, and then taking their level one instructors test. Don't be fooled, the word instructor is not as impressive as it sounds. There is a reason everyone else on the hill calls the level one instructors 'babysitters'.
If you are going to the hill alone though, or your friends don't have the patience to teach you (it can be hard, I'll admit, to stick with a first timer on the greens when there is a foot of fresh in the trees), then a lesson might not be a bad idea. You really are paying more for the right to cut lift lines and have some company than anything else though.
Three seasons as a lifty has made me hate Ski Schoolers (the instructors, not the newbs) with a passion, so I'm biased. It should be your choice. Make sure you learn a few Ski School jokes though, whatever you do! |
Hahaha, you are totally biase. Give me an example of someone who couldn't board or ski and went into ski school.? I know you don't have to be a great rider for level one, but come on...isn't that just a liftie created myth cause they are one another's nemisis. I dislike the overall ski school attitude as well adn would like to tell some of them to get stuffed, (having to deal with them as coworkers can be a pain) but I still think a lesson is a nicer atmostphere to learn in. Even if your friends say 'yeah, no problem, let's go' inevitably you are going to feel stressed and pressured when they are waiting at the bottom of the slope for you each time. And usually you can get a pretty good package for lesson and lift ticket for beginner's.
What's the difference between a ski schooler and god? God, doesn't think he's ski school. |
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Nor*Cal Ladies Man
Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac
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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I know this is dated but my $.02...
Take a lesson just to learn how to fall. After that there is nothing more important than days on the mountain. I never took a lesson but I have several friends with little to no time skiing who broke their wrists their first few days trying to learn to snowboard. Pretty common for new boarders to fall hands first and break a wrist. A lot of people also give up those first few days.
Just like any sport, take an athletic stance and you will go where your shoulders and hips point. _________________ If I agreed with you we would both be wrong. |
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