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STANG KILLA SS
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 Posted: May 07, 2008 11:55 am Post subject: why dont WB manufactures list board blank weight? |
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this makes no since to me. would make buying/comparing so much easier.
why wont they list weight?
you go on a forum and read on a certain board
post 1: this board is a tank
post 2: wow this board is so light!
post 3: i lost 12" of ollie height and can only do 360s not 540s cuase this thing is so heavy
post 4: amazing featherweight board, im flying farther in the flats than ever!
wish they would post that info. (all manufactures)
the only downside i can see is a wieght battle eventually getting so fierse the boards become weak, or expensive because they have to go to carbon fiber etc.
/rant.
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pooser
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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STANG KILLA SS, most people on the wakeboard forums don't know what they are talking about. I've seen a lot of people complain about not being able to ollie because there board is to heavy. In reality they have shitty technique and their board probably rides deeper in the water. Weight has very little to do with performance in wakeboarding.
manufacturers don't release board weights because each board will weigh something different. |
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scott a
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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The weight can often vary a bit from deck to deck. Besides, weight has less to do with the ride characteristics than you might think. Even the lightest board can ride like a tank if it's got a ton of rocker or has slow responsiveness. And the ollie height/jump height is more a product of the shape of the deck and rocker than weight.
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jt09
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| the bottom line is that they SHOULD list it. and those boards aren't going to vary by more than a couple of grams. |
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STANG KILLA SS
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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all good points. however what is the reason they DONT list it. even an average, i know layup weight will vary slightly, but weigh 5 and post the average.
i just dont get it.
its good info. say you find 2-3 boards that are similiar in design and what your looking for, similar ride etc. weight could be a factor in deciding.
every other form of sport list weights. even motorsports. i just have never understood this.
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holdsworth
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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a board is a board is a board...
buy a board based on specifications that you want/like in your riding. this isn't a weight game, it's about the characteristics of the board. weight helps a little, sure, but it's all in the different shapes and sizes that matters. |
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jt09
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| holdsworth wrote: | a board is a board is a board...
buy a board based on specifications that you want/like in your riding. this isn't a weight game, it's about the characteristics of the board. weight helps a little, sure, but it's all in the different shapes and sizes that matters. |
how is weight not a specification? how is it not a characteristic of the board?
i get your point that it's not anywhere near as important as shape, but why not list it? there's some pretty big differences in weight between boards out there. |
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K-dub
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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maybe a scale that is big enough to weigh some of the tanks that these mfg's are making lately is too expensive to buy?
they should just tack the price of the scale onto the price of the boards to cover the costs? |
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Innov8 Action Sports
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STANG KILLA SS
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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i agree with all what your saying. 100% i agree shape, size, and design are the most important. but say you have two identical boards, with all the features your looking for. one is lighter. which will you buy?
kinda like my 04 parks, it was offered in a bio core and DNA core. same board. if weight wasnt an issue then why does nobody save cash and buy the cheaper heavier board?
we list tip width, mid with, rocker, fin size, angle, length, all the specs of the board, why would you specifically never list the weight? it makes no since. even if all the boards are only 5-10 grams apart. id like to know all there is about a board and then make a decision. 
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E.J.
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hijack on....
Please PM me a full size picture of your avatar.... I am not sure I will ever be back to this thread, but my God it has my attention.
Hijack off. |
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dmb
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| E.J. wrote: | Please PM me a full size picture of your avatar.... I am not sure I will ever be back to this thread, but my God it has my attention.
Hi jack off. |
Not while you're on here I hope!  |
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holdsworth
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | it was offered in a bio core and DNA core. same board. if weight wasnt an issue then why does nobody save cash and buy the cheaper heavier board? |
because the boards have the different cores. they can be stiffer or more flexible. depends what you want, not always the differences in weight. plus graphics have an effect
jt09, i do understand what you're saying though. some manufacturers do list the weights of different boards like they should, but i don't see weight as an issue. i just go out and ride. i'm not going to buy an overly heavy board, don't get me wrong, but i go for the specs (other than weight) before anything else is an issue.
i'll quit and say it's personal preference. whatever anyone else wants to do is fine with me. i just know what i like and what i look for.
oh and E.J., i'll go out on a limb here and say it's a monster tower model? |
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matt1808
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| STANG KILLA SS wrote: | | kinda like my 04 parks, it was offered in a bio core and DNA core. same board. if weight wasnt an issue then why does nobody save cash and buy the cheaper heavier board? |
I would assume it is a similar situation to CWBs platinum cores.
If CWB platinum cores were just lighter, not stiffer also, then I would never buy one. You don't notice the weight difference, so the extra hundred would be a rip off. I like the snap the stiffer core offers though, so to me it is worth it.
CWB and Hype will throw out the weight specs. in these cases though, because it helps sell people on a more expensive board. |
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STANG KILLA SS
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| E.J. wrote: | Hijack on....
Please PM me a full size picture of your avatar.... I am not sure I will ever be back to this thread, but my God it has my attention.
Hijack off. |
LOL, i hope to have a new one up soon
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pooser
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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and those boards aren't going to vary by more than a couple of grams.
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I think it might be more than you think. A press release on the hyperlite sub VI explains that for this board they use "a specific ammount of resin" so that each board weighs the same. So they just use a random ammount of resin on their other boards???
I'm gonna have to say that weight just isn't a big selling point for wakeboards. Skateboards and surfboards don't have weight specifications. |
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Craig-R
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| Posted: May 07, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| not to always be praising slingshot, but slingshot boards and bindings are much lighter than other stuff out there and i'm pretty confident it has a significant effect on riding, with less weight, it's easier to spin, and to me it has been a noticeable difference |
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kavlock99
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| Posted: May 08, 2008 5:19 am Post subject: |
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I know mine weighs under 6lbs. 
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LakeIolaLuke
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| Posted: May 08, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Craig-R, The swing weight on slingy's are like nothing, but that board turns into a sail in the wind.
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