New Catalyst 116

calair03 · Posted: May 18, 2003 2:50 pm Post subject: New Catalyst 116

I just got a new catalyst 116 and it is pretty sick. I have always believed that the 3-D was the best but I must admit this board is pretty sick. I am riding it after work.....

Mister C · Posted: May 18, 2003 2:52 pm Post subject:

That board looks so nice, but i have one question. I remember last year all the wakeskates were wood, is it the same this year? Cuz that doesnt look like it has a wood base.

calair03 · Posted: May 18, 2003 2:53 pm Post subject:

nah it is foam and glass like a normal wakeboard

Mister C · Posted: May 18, 2003 2:55 pm Post subject:

Thats what i thought. Tell me how it rides compared to the wooden wakeskates when you get back. If youve ridden a wooden one that is.

Sean OBrien · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 165 City: Orlando, FL

In my opinion, Hyperlite is doing the right thing by moving away from wood.
Everybody needs to realize that wood and water just don't mix. By making the wakeskates with a foam core they will be a lot stronger and last longer.

Sean O'Brien

calair03 · Posted: May 18, 2003 2:59 pm Post subject:

I have a cassette 3-d now and I don't think it could be much better but this looks pretty good. This one does have the molded rails at the end which i think I will like. Finless is the way to go but I have always wanted at least a little grab and I think this may work.

Jeremy Coe · Soul Rider Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 408 City: Auckland

Sean, I agree with what you are saying in terms of durability...but foam has drawbacks in terms of performance. I really like how wood sits lower in the water, and it feels a lot nicer under the feet for some reason too...do you not agree?

DockSecret · Addict Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 756 City: Austin, TX

Wouldn't foam pop better? I mean, wood sits naturally lower in the water, so apparently the buoyant force isn't as strong, but if you we're to to pop a foam board, wouldn't it get a little more height? I'm going to have to try one soon.

calair03 · Posted: May 18, 2003 3:24 pm Post subject:

The fiberglass I think is a must for durability. I was reading on here the other day about how someone had left their board in a ski locker for the winter and found it all warped and cracked. I also wasn't too sure about the foam grip tape but I was doing some shuv-its on the carpet and I couldn't tell the difference. I guess I will see when it gets wet.

projectely4 · Posted: May 18, 2003 3:44 pm Post subject:

the rails look like the parks board a bit.

Sean OBrien · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 165 City: Orlando, FL

I'm not great at wakeskating but the people I ride with are. Both Derek and Daniel ride composite boards and they really like them.

I'm not saying that the catalyst is the perfect wakeskate. Maybe it is maybe it isn't? But it is a step in the right direction.

Sean O'Brien

projectely4 · Posted: May 18, 2003 6:11 pm Post subject:

i think the foam boards loose pop because they are harder to push down on in the water not allowing for a good ollie. it is probably sick for w2w. is the byerly foam or wood and does it have the same rails like the grubb

x2xwakegurlx2x · Guest

they look really cool, Daniel Lovett was riding one at the cable tour stop, looked pretty cool, i have never ridden one...Sean, i agree with you, its is a big improvemnet and will be good for wakeksaitng, i think

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

projectely4, Byerly's is foam also. I checked out he 112 at my local shop and they are alot stiffer than even the Cassette 3D's. They look great and have a great concave to them.Sean OBrien, I am with you 100% a $200-$300 skate should last more than half a season if you are not hitting rails everyday.

calair03 · Posted: May 18, 2003 10:37 pm Post subject:

I rode it for a while tonight. It is sick. th concave is there but it is different than the concave on the 3-d, and I like it better. The concave is more like a ridge going around the outside of the board with the middle being flat. It felt like I hademore control than the cassette. The foam was cool too and I didn't think it made any differance. It felt more like riding a wakeboard than the cassette.

Jeremy Coe · Soul Rider Joined: 27 Feb 2003 Posts: 408 City: Auckland

yeah, but do you really want to feel like you are riding a wakeboard when you are wakeskating? I like the fact that it feels different.

I have had my 3d for a season and it has no visible signs of deterioration. It has not warped or cracked. It was Thomas's board before I bought it off him so Im guessing he has used it on a rail or two. I dont know, it seems like people overexaggerate the problems with wood...look at waterskis....We have some waterskis from like the 60s and 70s at home that are wood, and you could still ride them today. Sure they arent used on rails, but I dont really see why wood is more likely to break on a rail.

Why? Wood flexes a little, and unless the skate is already in a bad state, this flex should inhibit stress fractures etc. Look how many wakeboards get funked on rails...I don't for a second think that glass is more durable. Ok, sure, if you have a jib base...but a jib base doesnt stop a board cracking, it just protects the bottom sheet.

As long as you take care of a cassette, ie dont leave it in the sun or put it away wet etc, I dont think they have any durability issues. Especially from 2002 onwards.

B-rad · Posted: May 19, 2003 6:50 am Post subject:

I have a flat 02 cassette and I have not had any problems with it cracking or warping. Another guy that I ride with has a 3-D 02 and he hasn't had any warping either. Neither of them have had any serious rail slides, a few slides on docks, that's about it. I've never tried the foam wakeskate, so I can't compare. I think 250-300 for a skate is crazy though. I saw the kampus at TSR this weekend, 260 is too much.

calair03 · Posted: May 19, 2003 8:33 am Post subject:

I don't mean to say that it feels totally like a wakeboard. Better put I guess I would say that it has less drag than my cassette and tracks a little better.

EzyRider · Outlaw Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 147 City: Turlock, CA

that board looks sick. I ordered my 112 friday, should come in end of this week.
Area the edges around the foam black or blue? IT also looks alot bulkier than some wakeskates ive seen. How does it compare to your wakeskate in terms of weight?

EzyRider · Outlaw Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 147 City: Turlock, CA

your cassette that is

Dirty$outhRida · Addict Joined: 24 Feb 2003 Posts: 665 City: Austin, Tx.

i like how it has a channel

77 · Posted: May 19, 2003 1:57 pm Post subject:

I will be getting one as soon as I can afford it.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

Are all the board coming with different foam and top colors? The 112 I saw had a white top with light grey foam, not dark blue with light blue foam like your 116

cpowell21 · Posted: May 19, 2003 4:40 pm Post subject:

I have a 112 that is white with light grey foam but I have seen the 112 in black with the light grey foam and now the 116 in black with blue foam those are the three that I have seen

anti-shoobies · Posted: May 19, 2003 5:44 pm Post subject:

I think the Hyperlite's and nonwood are beteer for bigger and wake to wake tricks and probably sliders. But the woods give it a more tech skate feeling for really tech flip tricks. (like Lovett does Sean) I dunno, I guess it's just personal preference and style of riding.

merkin · Newbie Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 17 City: orlando

wood sucks balls, anyone who doesnt agree doesnt wakeskate alot

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

its preference. maybe wood core boards. some companies make wakeboards this way and they turn out pretty durable with a good pop. but one challenge with making wakeskates is making the board light but not so light that it flys out from under you and this is an obstacle they are going to have to overcome while experimeniting with these new concepts

B-rad · Posted: May 20, 2003 5:53 am Post subject:

Merkin the genuis it took to come up with this statement is unequalled. "wood sucks balls, anyone who doesnt agree doesnt wakeskate alot ". So I guess Thomas, Aaron, Leif, Drew, Tim, and about the other 85% of people that haven't coughed up the dough for a brand new Hyperlite don't wakeskate a lot. I know a lot of people that don't want to pay $270 for a foam board when they can pay between $70 and $100 for a wood skate. They wakeskate a lot, and they swear by wood. It's all personal preference and how you like the feel of the board. I bet you are one of those guys that say's the parks baord is the best board ever, anyone who doesn't agree is a moron.

EzyRider · Outlaw Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 147 City: Turlock, CA

cpowell21- do u have any pics of your catalyst with the white and grey top. Post some pics. I ordered mine, i cant wait to see it. thanks

calair03 · Posted: May 21, 2003 9:03 am Post subject:

B-rad
$260 really isn't a lot when you consider that wakeboarding is a very expensive sport. If people spend 1000 bucks on a new dna board and bindings and 40-50k for a boat what is another $260 for a skate that won't warp if you forget and leave it in a ski locker. Plus it rides sick too.

B-rad · Posted: May 21, 2003 9:27 am Post subject:

Another $260 is a lot of money to me, but I see what you are saying. I prefer eBay and going through hook-ups. I think I spent less than 300 total for my Harris and Exo's. Till then I'll stick to the flat cassette for a bill.

calair03 · Posted: May 21, 2003 10:26 am Post subject:

I hear you on the hook ups. THant is the only way to go.

calair03 · Posted: May 29, 2003 10:29 am Post subject:

I must say that the more I ride this board the better it gets. Mose people may talk it down because of the price but I think it is worth it.

EzyRider · Outlaw Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 147 City: Turlock, CA

me too, it looks great, rides great, and will last longer than any other wakeskate.