floor replacement ski nautique 2001

[wakerwes]

here's my story
i've removed my carpet and saw some cracks in my fiberglas at the battery box. i've decide to cut some fiberglass away and ad some new layers. but while i was cutting i say that my wood was completly rot
i was scared and start cutting more. till i didn't see any rot wood.
here it start


and here i ended



There was water between the foame under the driver seat?? how does become there?
My stingers seems to be ok they are not completly dry but not rot
Should i remove the foam also and apply some new?
i was wondering if it was better if i cut 1 new piece woodboard that fits in it,
or use multiple pieces of wood like it was original by correct craft?
what will be better. the only reason i can guess that correct craft used more pieces of wood so the foam will get out trough the spaces between the wood boards
Should i also remove the foam and apply new foam?


i also gonna remove the rot board where the tubes and wires are coming out. ive noticed a crack at the bottem of the wood board even the fiberglass on the bottom of my boat is cracked on that place. i think that the previous owner has hit something with the first fin
i didn't drove my boat yet i have it like 7 months and the seasons is now started
so the fin has to be removed too. now you can see no damage on the outside of the hull only the first fin is a little bend.

it was a dusty job my nose started bleeding.
the only thing i wanted to do is remove my carpet
more pics: http://users.telenet.be/vanruyskensvelde/correctcraft/floor/

[WakeTech]

I started a post about floor fixing, do a seach under brendella and there is some info there that might be of some use. What year is the nauti ?

[Nor*Cal]

WakeTech, http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=23001&highlight=brendella+floor

[WakeTech]

Thanks Man

[BIZ]

First of all for health reasons wear a high quality dust mask!!! I know you don't want to hear this but you will be doing this for a while. you might as well think about replacing the whole floor. chances are that if you had that much rot in that area there will be more in the boat look at it this way... once it is done you will have many years of trouble free service, those boats are built like tanks.

You can probably salvage some of the foam but if it is wet you need to cut it out and replace. Or just a thought... maybe some custom ballast tanks could be installed.

[Nor*Cal]

Here's foam if you need to replace that... http://www.shopmaninc.com/foam.html

[wakerwes]

[Luke]

MY SAVIOR!!!!!!!

Can you tell me if it looks like you can make the battery box bigger.

I wanted to put a double battery setup in my boat, an 88' 2001 and wanted to locate it in the stock location. But needed to make it a little bigger to accomodate both batterys.

Was wondering-

Are there any major boards running around the box at all, or does it look like it can be made bigger?

Thanks for any help!!!

[wakerwes]

[BIZ]

batteries are fairly easy to re-locate! if you can find a hard tank that will fit perfect then it looks ok. You can also frame out a space for a fat sac possibly customer made. The space in those boats is SO LIMITED to start with.

[wesgardner]

Hey wakerwes,

We stand ready to help you with all your fiberglass woes....

Here's the deal on plywood - I'd use at least as large a panel as CC used. Can you get what we Americans call Fir ACX plywood? This means one side has an "A" grade veneer as it's outer face (fairly nice) and one side has a "C" grade veneer. What's inside is a mystery! Ha... no actually there are regulations on how big the voids inside can be. th glue is the same glue used for marine grade panels - marine grade just doesn't have ANY voids. Actually our plywood is rather shabby by International /European standards - some of the nicer boatbuilding plywoods are Dutch. So you'll be able to find some suitable plywood?

You will want to coat the plywood with epoxy, particularly the "end grain" - this is where plywood soaks up moisture (like a sponge) causing rot. So if you want your repair to be a sound one, do it this way and you will never have another problem with your floors.

I believe you'll found the floor bounded to the hull around the perimeter, you can purchase fiberglass tape in 3" or 4" widths (sorry about the inches, I'm a dumb American and we just really haven't gotten that metric stuff down yet....) which makes bounding your new floor quite easy. Remember, the floor IS part of the internal structure/stiffness of your boat so go slow and do it correctly.

Ballast tanks can be made using polyester resin and fiberglass cloth/matt. I think I posted how to do this awhile back....I'm not sure what materials are available to you and what are the costs.

Let us know how you're progressing

Wes

[Bruky]

That's certainly going to be a big job, but if I had the time, that would be soooo much fun just to rebuild a boat from the an existing hull...and it would []D[][]\/[][]D!

[Luke]

How hard was it to pop out the battery box. Did it break apart or come out easy.

I was thinking two optimas, as they are not very big as far as batteries go.

[wakerwes]

[wakerwes]

are those airvents tubes necessary? they are for adding fresh air to the engine i think, but i can"t see them on newer boats? because 2 of the 3 tubes are broken, and they will be an extra pain in the ass for my ballast tank
what you guys think?

[srh00z]

To my knowledge, the air vents that you are referring too, have an intake on the front of the boat and air is pushed through the bilge of the boat and out the back to prevent gas vapors from building up while the boat is underway.

[wakerwes]

I was thinking the same, but i can't see a intake on newer boat's like the ski nautique + 1990. How does newer boat's prevent gas vapors?
intake in the engine cover?

[bradb]

wakerwes,
I believe they are still there on my '94 nautique. They are on the bottom of the windshield on both sides if I remember correctly.
B

[wakerwes]

maybe i have to look better

[wesgardner]

Hey wakerwes,

As far as panel size, it'd be good to install as large a panel as you can comfortably handle...Watch your back, we don't need any injuries here... I would cloth/matt the panel for durability. Make sure you coat the entire panel with epoxy, particularly the edges.

The vents - I'd say install a bilge blower in your engine comparment and leave the vents out...keep in mind you DO need a supply of fresh air and a way for fumes to escape via the bilge blower. DO NOT overlook this step - doing so can cause serious injury or death (like when the boat explodes)

Stay in touch


Wes

[wakerwes]

What will you guys do, i've removed the foam because it was wet, but the wet foam is going further under the floor next to the engine. Should i completly remove the floor? will the wet foam damage my fiberglass hull? here is a pic


you can see the foam is only wet at the bottom, will it vaporize or not? will it hurt my hull?

tomorrow i'm going on a holiday for 3 weeks so i gonna see what happen if i come back.
hope i don't miss a wakeboard season

[Laptom]

Hee Wesley,

Sounds like a lot of work... But I think you have to make it right and spend the time in it... If you're gonna miss the season because of this, I invite you on our boat in DenBosch (1hour drive from Antwerpen) for some pulls..

Good luck with it.

Tommy

[Nor*Cal]

wakerwes, if the stringers are not sealed then wet foam will lead to dry rot. I say remove the foam to prevent having to remove the stringers at a later date.

[wesgardner]

Hey wakerwes,

Things must certainly be dry...how to do that is a big question...make very sure your engine stringers are in good shape, don't "cheat" here or you'll have an issue later....

Wes

[wakerwes]

[pilot_ryder]

thats a big problem you have there

[wakerwes]

[wakerwes]

This is how the nautique is now.
ive removed all the wet foam an rot wood.

i have to remake the battery box, i think i gonna do it like luke has done it. http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=40967

tommorrow i gonna do some measurements and buying some plastic tubes for the engine ventilation, wood, foam,....

anybody some nice ideas?

Maybe a mod can change this topic to the DIY forum?

[Wakebrad]

wakerwes, whoa dude. That looks like a lot of work.

Where did your engine mounts go?

[wakerwes]

[karkid]

My dad and I did this on an older boat, and replaced a couple stringers. The work isn't too bad. We made templates of the floor out of cardboard and transfered them to concrete mold plywood. That kind of plywood has a plastic coating on both sides so the concrete doesnt stick to it (like when making basements). Screwed and glued them to the floor, fiberglassed all the seams, and its good to go.

[Luke]

Rise from the ashes!!


Never thought this would come up again. Anyways, my boat has been holding together great, so I guess all that duct tape is doing its job.

Good luck finishing up yours, it gets expensive when you buy an $80 sheet of marine grade, couple gallons of marine epoxy at $90 a gallon, but hey what else are you gonna spend money on??

Dont forget to go with the newer heaveir weight carpet, your feet will love you. It still packs down over time, but is much softer feeling even packed down.

There is plenty of space to fit 4 batteries in my box, and I even got all of the air tubes routed around it. Home Depot sells that plastic drain pipe with or without holes. I went with that as it is durable enough to stand up over time. The plastic sheeted coil wire original stuff sucks.

[wakerwes]

Luke thx for the tips.
Luke wich type of optima bluetops do you use? is it the BT DC 4.2?

[wesgardner]

Hey wakerwes,

Looks good and dry! Nice job... Good luck

Wes

[Luke]

Wakerwes-

I went with the D34 models. They have 55 amp hours. If I did it over, I would have made the box just a tad wider to make it easier to move them. Right now they are pretty snug.

I didnt put a drain hole in the box cause I was hoping that water wouldnt get into it. Well it was raining last time we went to the lake I I had about 3/4 inch of water in there. Time to just put a drain in. I think I willl put a screen on it though to keep the sludge out.


Good luck.

here are some photos of mine-

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lukeduke95/album?.dir=/370b&.src=ph&.tok=ph7T.uEBVLx6q3eb